End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Sister Alvear]

and I have been doing the same...you just will not listen...

[Sister Alvear]

you still have not told me are women preachers lost?

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

remember...

1 Timothy 2:12, in which Paul states "I do not suffer (permit) a woman to teach, or usurp authority over a man." In interpreting this verse, it is important to remember that the Greek words for "man" and "husband," as well as the words for "woman" and "wife," are the same. In the very next verse, Paul refers back to Adam being formed first, then Eve.

From all indications, this passage is, by context, referring to the marriage relationship, not the church. Paul is not saying that men cannot learn from women. Rather, he is simply stating that women are not to be manipulative or domineering over their husbands. There is a big difference.

LOL - And "remember" this has been shown to be completely false & entirely wrong contextually, grammatically & syntactically .



But, keep spewing out the same ol' willful error - we'll be here to rebut it !

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

This is not dealing with "church" authority but authority in the "home." The context proves it. Paul uses Adam and Eve as the example of authority. What relationship did Adam and Eve have? They were husband and wife, not pastor and sheep. Since there is no Greek word for husband and wife, the word "man" and "woman" is also translated "husband" and "wife", and based on the context these words should have been translated as such.

LOL - Noooooooo Sis. Alvear, the "context" proves the polar opposite of the heresy you continue to spew out above - & this has been demonstrated to you literally hundreds & hundreds of times by now ! At this point you have only hurt your cause (been told so by other pastors) by continuing to willfully pedal your false-hoods. Have you no fear of God Almighty? Shameful....But sooooooooo typical of a "woman-preacher" (no such thing really).

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

You can verify that by looking up the word woman in the Strong's Concordance we find that this use of "women" is Strong's number 1135, The definition of this use of woman is "wife.”

Yes, please do look this Greek noun up - & you will see the very first meaning of simply "woman" staring you in the face ! In fact (& of course, this has been shown to you for years now), this Greek noun is mostly translated as simply "woman" & only as "wife" when the text contains contextual identifiers such as possessive pronouns - NONE OF WHICH IS GOING ON IN I TIMOTHY 2 !


Sorry - Keep ignoring it for the rest of the whole year if you like - & we'll keep pointing out your intentional & willful deception !

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

and my Portuguese Bible says..wife...

And your Portuguese Bible has mistranslated the passage - How do I know? Because I have consulted over 40 separate translations which adopt the rendering of simply "woman" - which combines literally hundreds of professional linguists . Now, go ahead & whip out ol' Young's again so I can demonstrate his translation-errors for you...For about the 200th time!


LOL....Keep trying Sis. & we'll keep obliging you!

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

and I have been doing the same...you just will not listen...

LOL - Nice try - you've only been ignoring the inspired grammar of the text & (just as I said you would do) merely plodding along with your fingers stuck in your ears in stubborn defiance to Scripture.


There is nothing to "listen" to - other than false doctrine !

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

you still have not told me are women preachers lost?

Oh puhleeeezzzzzeeeee .


You have ignored virtually every-single rebuttal, exegesis, syntactical facts, & definition we've demonstrated. Now you're attempting sleight of hand in accusing us of "not answering" !?



I'll be more the glad to answer this smoke-screen question (gladly so) - as soon as you answer RJR's question: Are you saying a woman cannot teach her own husband at home, but us free to teach another woman's husband both in the home & the church ??


Patently absurd - with certified papers...."LOL."

[rdp]

Back a little later to continue demonstrating the error !

[Sister Alvear]

is a woman lost that preaches?

[RJR]

Originally Posted by rdp

LOL - Nice try - you've only been ignoring the inspired grammar of the text & (just as I said you would do) merely plodding along with your fingers stuck in your ears in stubborn defiance to Scripture.


There is nothing to "listen" to - other than false doctrine !





Oh puhleeeezzzzzeeeee .


You have ignored virtually every-single rebuttal, exegesis, syntactical facts, & definition we've demonstrated. Now you're attempting sleight of hand in accusing us of "not answering" !?



I'll be more the glad to answer this smoke-screen question (gladly so) - as soon as you answer RJR's question: Are you saying a woman cannot teach her own husband at home, but us free to teach another woman's husband both in the home & the church ??


Patently absurd - with certified papers...."LOL."

She has not and will not answer. She knows that it is the heights of absurdity to say she cannot teach her husband at home and then can bring another man into the home, or go to church and teach any other man including some other woman's husband. There goes her 1 Tim 2 argument. Notice the sleight of hand when she said, well I taught my husband english and he taught me spanish in the home, as if this is akin to teaching or usurping authority over the man as 1 Tim. 2 expressly forbids. However, this does not surprise me, people who blatantly encourages willful resistance to crystal clear prohibitions will look for any justification to continue in their violations.

[Sister Alvear]

this is the question you will not answer because you know I know who you are...Is a woman preacher lost?

[Sister Alvear]

I can teach whoever I want to teach...I am a teacher by trade....lol....

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I have taught my husband a lot of things...I helped teach him English, helped him learn a lot of Hebrew words, and he has taught me Spanish and many things about Spanish culture...We have took Bible subjects and each studied them out and sit down and discussed our findings...
We work together....in every way...however he is the head of our home...

This is exactly what 1 Cor 14 encourages you to do. Not as you believe 1 Tim 2 forbids you to do. Sis Alvear go ahead and admit you believe 1 Cor 14 and 1 Tim 2, is contradictory. Yep, there you go the first woman who wants to teach the Bible, who must admit to do so, that the Bible does not confirm but rather contradicts itself.