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View Poll Results: Is God fair?
Yes 9 56.25%
No 4 25.00%
Other 3 18.75%
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:54 AM
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Re: Is God fair?

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I couldn't fathom an unfair God.
Fair would be receiving what we deserve. I pray to high Heaven that God isn't "fair". Because NONE of us deserve eternal life. However, God is "just". He is just in that He knows we are but flesh and has made a way for His children to be saved through grace.
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Aquila wouldn't irresistible grace have to be true or aleast be true by default if predestination is true?
To some degree, yes. However, there are various views on "irresistible grace". Some say it works mechanically and silently to bring the elect to salvation. Others believe that it is active involvement by God, overcoming the stubborn will of the elect at times. Therefore, it's not that irresistible grace can't be resisted... it's that said resistance never wins in the end. It's very personal in this view. The elect who experiences this form of "irresistible grace" is essentially... wrestling with God. And, eventually, they'll surrender to His love and grace.
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