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Feeding the hungry would be a greater miracle than healing severed limbs. In fact, a church fired up to serve and feed the needy as their purpose for being here would be a greater miracle than raising a man from the dead.

So many of us Pentecostals have become so fixated on the fantastic (and often exaggerated miracles) that we've neglected the real and present miracles we're called to both perform ourselves and inspire in the human hearts of others.
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It's always a miracle when a man sets the selfish nature of the flesh/ego aside to do that which is a personal sacrifice for the sake of another. Especially when it isn't one's responsibility to do so and they stand to receive no material gain for doing so.

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The things you are talking about are not miracles, Aquila. They're just being human. Good humans do that kind of thing, and not just Christians. And some Christians are not very good at it!
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The things you are talking about are not miracles, Aquila. They're just being human. Good humans do that kind of thing, and not just Christians. And some Christians are not very good at it!
We could discuss all the possible meanings of the word "miracle". However, I'll do better than that. I'll see you your "not miracles" and I'll raise you a categorical distinction...

"Feeding the hungry would be a greater work than healing severed limbs."
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We could discuss all the possible meanings of the word "miracle". However, I'll do better than that. I'll see you your "not miracles" and I'll raise you a categorical distinction...

"Feeding the hungry would be a greater work than healing severed limbs."
lol!
I am visualizing two men standing side by side. One is hungry and one has no arm. One is given a bowl of stew and one a new arm. When the hungry man needs food again, the other man still has his arm.

I'm thinking the arm is a miracle.
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I am visualizing two men standing side by side. One is hungry and one has no arm. One is given a bowl of stew and one a new arm. When the hungry man needs food again, the other man still has his arm.

I'm thinking the arm is a miracle.
Please consider closely what I'm saying...

In fact, a church fired up to serve and feed the needy as their purpose for being here would be a greater miracle (or work) than raising a man from the dead.


Don't believe me? Consider how many gather together in their vast buildings every Sunday for a chance to see some miracle. Then compare it to how many regularly volunteer to keep the local homeless shelter or food pantry open.

It would take a miracle in the hearts of men to reverse those numbers.
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Please consider closely what I'm saying...

In fact, a church fired up to serve and feed the needy as their purpose for being here would be a greater miracle (or work) than raising a man from the dead.


Don't believe me? Consider how many gather together in their vast buildings every Sunday for a chance to see some miracle. Then compare it to how many regularly volunteer to keep the local homeless shelter or food pantry open.

It would take a miracle in the hearts of men to reverse those numbers.
Everyone is NOT called to run a homeless shelter or food pantry. And, frankly, I am tired of the guilt trips. Everyone doesn't have the same calling or burden placed on their lives. Some people are not capable of handling the work of running a homeless shelter or food pantry. I am not called to work in a country like Sis. Alvear. I am not going to feel guilty about that.

I think it's a bit ridiculous to call such a benevolent Christian nation a bunch of slackers on helping those in need. There are people getting help and there are people who don't want God, they just want a bunch of freebies. So, do we continue to feed them? Certainly, it's not for me to worry about their mindset.

God taught me a lesson one day when I was at a concert with my son. We came to see a Christian group who were not the headliners. A massive group of young people were in attendance. They weren't there to see the Christian band, but the headliner group.

I had such a burden for them. God spoke to me and said that I should pray that ONE person in each community would rise up to reach them for the Gospel. All He needed was ONE person in each community to get the ball rolling. It wasn't my job to go and feed, clothe or proclaim the Gospel to them. It was too much for me to handle. All He asked me to do was pray, and He would do the rest.

Not one person at a homeless shelter would call getting fed a greater miracle than someone standing in line suddenly growing a limb.
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We could discuss all the possible meanings of the word "miracle". However, I'll do better than that. I'll see you your "not miracles" and I'll raise you a categorical distinction...

"Feeding the hungry would be a greater work than healing severed limbs."
lol!
Well, I suppose I might agree with that.
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