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Old 06-13-2014, 09:36 PM
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Some folks judge others by themselves. They think that because they watch everything from movies to porn on the web, everyone else must be doing it also. Didn't Paul say something about that not being wise?
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I just learned that a old time UPCI family have TV in their home. I was brought up in a very conservative church. We were not allowed to have monitors or DVD's until around 2004. We had a list of acceptable DVD's we could watch. Little House on the Prairie did not cut the list. I have been out of the UPCI since 2005. I am just curious of what the norm is now.
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I pastor a UPC church as far as I know there are n TV's in our church. We still preach against Hollywood and movies in any form. Also preach against TV programing from any device.

So of us still stand for holiness and live it
In 30 years of the UPC I have known people that hid TVs in their bedroom and "Amened" the Pastor whenever he railed on TV.
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Declaring "holiness" in the context of "NO TV" on the internet is beyond funny
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Declaring "holiness" in the context of "NO TV" on the internet is beyond funny
Does anyone preach against internet? Besides the Amish?
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Does anyone preach against internet? Besides the Amish?
Absolutely! At an Ultra Con large preachers meeting in Nashville several years ago I heard a pastor from Colorado preach that nobody in his church is allowed to have internet unless their job requires it and in those cases they have to put a filter on it that onlly allows them to go to the websites their job requires them to go to.

Of course this same pastor "doesn't allow" anyone in his church under the age of 18 to have a cell phone.

I heard all of this with my own ears so not second hand. If that pastor wasn't telling people what kind of car to buy and where to buy their house I would be surprised.
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The way I teach it,(realizing the day we live in), is "selective viewing".
I teach if you have a problem with TV and find yourself not being able to "walk out" during dicey programming, then by all means get rid of it or just dont watch it(if you are in a situation that others in the household have a say).
Same with the internet, if you have a gravitation towards porn and cannot completely stop looking for it, you should ban it from your life.(to some, it is a magazine rack in their house).

"the eye is the light of the body"

Matthew 6:22-23
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22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
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In 30 years of the UPC I have known people that hid TVs in their bedroom and "Amened" the Pastor whenever he railed on TV.
I thought all liars burned in the lake of fire. ??
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I thought all liars burned in the lake of fire. ??
That's just it... people have lost their fear of God, and only fear man. They fear the pastor more than God. They think if they can fool the pastor, they're okay.
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Old 06-14-2014, 09:37 AM
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Re: Is TV now the norm in the UPCI home?
Well there maybe someone here with a TV I don't go from house to house to inspect. The homes I have been in I have not seen one and I know how the people say they feel about it.

If someone lies about it that is a sin also so they need to repent and then repent of the TV and get rid of it.

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