Islamic Prayers at the Vatican

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Revelationist

The Torah does prophecy about Jesus either. Them books have been removed.

That is not what I asked you simply avoided the question. Allow me to restate it:

Does the Jewish holy book deny that Jesus died on the cross or that He was the son of God?

[jfrog]

Luke, you are saying that the bible and quran disagree on many important points. We all agree. That doesn't translate into there being a different God. The pharisees were hypoctires that closed the kingdom of heaven up. Jesus said their father was Satan and yet they still worshipped the same God as Jesus.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Luke, you are saying that the bible and quran disagree on many important points. We all agree. That doesn't translate into there being a different God. The pharisees were hypoctires that closed the kingdom of heaven up. Jesus said their father was Satan and yet they still worshipped the same God as Jesus.

Jesus seemed to imply by your quote that they were worshiping satan. They were decieved.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Luke

Jesus seemed to imply by your quote that they were worshiping satan. They were decieved.

Then you see it differenly than I. The pharisees worshipped the one true God. Just because they were deceived doesn't make them incapable of worshipping the one true god. It just makes them deceived worshippers of the one true God.

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by Luke

That is not what I asked you simply avoided the question. Allow me to restate it:

Does the Jewish holy book deny that Jesus died on the cross or that He was the son of God?

Your not understanding my answer, both Muslams and Jews use the first five books of the Old Testiment. The prophecys of Jesus have been removed because both groups deny Christ.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Luke, you are saying that the bible and quran disagree on many important points. We all agree. That doesn't translate into there being a different God. The pharisees were hypoctires that closed the kingdom of heaven up. Jesus said their father was Satan and yet they still worshipped the same God as Jesus.

You are avoiding the issue if they are about the same God why does one deny Him? How can the islamist worship who they deny?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Luke

You are avoiding the issue if they are about the same God why does one deny Him? How can the islamist worship who they deny?

Was God always with us as the man Jesus Christ?

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Revelationist

Your not understanding my answer, both Muslams and Jews use the first five books of the Old Testiment. The prophecys of Jesus have been removed because both groups deny Christ.

So you are saying that the Torah says that Jesus did not die on the cross and that He was not the son of God?

[Luke]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Was God always with us as the man Jesus Christ?

No there was a time when Jesus existed but had not human body.

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by Luke

So you are saying that the Torah says that Jesus did not die on the cross and that He was not the son of God?

I'm saying it says nothing about it.