Question?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by MawMaw

Sure it is. What is so hard to understand about Acts 2:38 instructions?

why spiritual children seem to insist on such a literal translation, like children will do. If i told you 'wait here for the present,' would you still sit there all day? Understand why Christ said You pore over the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and yet they speak of Me.

Originally Posted by MawMaw

God made the plan, not any organization.

wadr, you are following a script that has been manufactured for you, that you call "required," or "normal," or "the only way," when you do not know. And if the men who taught you would have been honest, they would have indicated that they did not know, either. What did they tell you about the schism that split the church at the Councils of Trent? Are you sure you landed on the right side of that one? I am convinced you did not. Those who taught you signed a pact in order to be ordained, swearing to uphold doctrine regardless of any future spiritual unction. A deal with the devil.

Originally Posted by MawMaw

There is only one right way, not several.

oh, i def agree. and your religion, the framework you hang your faith on, has nothing whatsoever to do with it. God does not care in the slightest what religion you are, and will judge your heart.

Originally Posted by MawMaw

Christ has only one name, Jesus.

You really think so? how do you know? But they call on the same Name in Creation-centered Chritianity, anyway. Please see that i at least, am only suggesting to you that you may wish to go back to everything you assume is unshakeable, and give it a little shake. God is not going to drop you. A death centered religion is for suckers. Christ rose, and lives.

Originally Posted by MawMaw

Everything we do in word or in deed, is to be done in that blessed Name. Baptism included. Yes, God is love, but He is also a God of vengeance and wrath.

funny, reading that last part, even though you have listed Love first, i distinctly hear it coming last. The OT is over; we are in a different dispensation now--that of Grace. Trust that God delights in your unique way of producing fruit. Wadr, i could tell you where i hear all the vengeance and wrath coming from...

As the believers go, so goes the nation. Don't believe me; but you might read the Harbinger. Never mind, even, about anyone's religion, for the moment. Your leaders have declared a curse for their own--right out of Isaiah--and included you in it. I think the online preview would give you most of the info,
http://books.google.com/books?id=nt2...in.%22&f=false

i mean dang, we're swirling around the bottom of the bowl--we can yack about ones religion anytime. recognizing a more spiritually awake and alive conception of Christ does not require that you abandon any core beliefs, anyway--you can hang on to most of that yack for as long as you like.

[shazeep]

When did I came that you may have life, and more abundantly
turn into I can't wait to die, and go to heaven?

[aegsm76]

shaz - do you believe the Bible is the word of God or the work of men?

[shazeep]

the inspired work of God, definitely. Warts and all. I follow it implicitly, perhaps, more than explicitly. Many passages that others might read literally, i at least see other reflections in--and i would say that this is an accepted way to study Scripture. Who would deny the lessons implicit in the Israelites 40 years in the Sinai, by comparing it to a believer's present-day walk? Etc. My strong belief is that any time you read about some physical act or situation in Scripture, there is a spiritual parallel and principle that is being imparted, but it must be discerned with your third eye, and beware someone interpreting it for you, imo. They may just be getting in the Spirit's way. At the very least, be open to other views--if your views are the full spiritual truth, no fire can touch them; and if they are not, it can be very difficult to admit. Our society is so completely corrupted, Religion included, that Scripture says we are going to be speechless at how far off we are.

[ILG]

God said "Draw the Drapes" to two men.

One proceeded to pull the drapes shut and one sat down to draw them on a sheet of paper.

Both drew the drapes. Shall the one who pull them shut say to the one who drew them on paper he is better and more holy? Or does it only matter how God decides to measure the righteousness of the men based on their faith?

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Harsh but true. Not for Sale should heed the warning.

What warning? You're the one who believes in lies.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

You are a cloud without water, carried about the winds

A tree whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots.

A raging wave of the sea, foaming out your own shame.

A wandering star, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

enjoy the darkness.

This message is from the Dark Ages. Sounds like you're on a "Witch Hunt", where innocent people are executed with unproven evidence.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

I am very tolerant of atheists and unbelievers for they have always been in darkness and do not know the glory of the Gospel, however I have little patience for those who once having tasted the heavenly gift, have decided to go back like the dog to his vomit.
having preferred the mud than being washed in Christ.

It would have been better for them never to have known the way of truth.

FW, it is you that is living in a lie. You need to find a mirror.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by ILG

God said "Draw the Drapes" to two men.

One proceeded to pull the drapes shut and one sat down to draw them on a sheet of paper.

Both drew the drapes. Shall the one who pull them shut say to the one who drew them on paper he is better and more holy? Or does it only matter how God decides to measure the righteousness of the men based on their faith?

GREAT question, and no easy answer here, except that GOD is the final judge, regardless of how right or wrong we think we are.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by ILG

God said "Draw the Drapes" to two men.

One proceeded to pull the drapes shut and one sat down to draw them on a sheet of paper.

Both drew the drapes. Shall the one who pull them shut say to the one who drew them on paper he is better and more holy? Or does it only matter how God decides to measure the righteousness of the men based on their faith?

I'm thinking of Cain and Able in this illustration above. Both Cain and Abel brought a sacrifice, but God chose which one was acceptable. Cain felt so grieved that his interpretation was wrong that he killed his brother over it, and God must have felt somewhat responsible, because He didn't kill Cain over his sin of being a murderer, but instead allowed him to live, albeit with a mark on his life, so that no one would kill him. I wonder if there is a parable to the complex question you posed from which we might draw from.