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Re: Question?
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Originally Posted by NotforSale
I have tried to point this out so many times on this Forum. After 35 years in the UPCI, the word, "United", became a misnomer with me. When I was a pastor, the phone would ring, and it would be another pastor who did nothing but bash the neighboring UPC Church.
If it wasn't Standards, it was "Sheep Stealing", or compromised preaching. I was so sick of hearing this nonsense, I finally stopped answering the phone so I didn't have to listen to this Religious rhetoric that is so prevalent in Christianity.
Regardless of what people believe, this strife runs deep in the realm of Religion for one, simple reason; Facts based upon Myth.
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I've read far more of your posts than I have responded to and the pattern is always the same.
You claim to be an expert on religion, particularly, the UPCI, and you paint everything and everyone with ONE BIG BRUSH!
I have been in the UPCI for 35+ years, I have been a licensed minister in the UPCI for over 15 years.
You are not the only one on this forum or in this world thats "been around and experienced some stuff". But you sure do post like you are all alone in this matter and thus you "know it all" and you have "seen the light" and have been "delivered".
In case you missed it, I have considered all of "my" experiences in the UPCI and I have chosen to REMAIN associated with the UPCI. The reason for this is because my RELATIONSHIP is not with an organization or a church or a set of rules. My RELATIONSHIP is with Jesus Christ.
That being said, being in a RELATIONSHIP with Jesus Christ doesn't mean I'm going to sit back and ignore lies and pure hate being spewed out about my organization or church of choice.
You should really try for a RELATIONSHIP and give up the oldest game in history...the BLAME GAME! Blaming an organization, blaming other people for your issues. The blame game has been going on since Adam and Eve. And even though they played the game well, it didn't keep them from being kicked out of the garden!
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06-30-2014, 02:37 PM
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Didn't realize this Lady Man-of-God was still posting here.
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06-30-2014, 03:33 PM
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Re: Question?
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Didn't realize this Lady Man-of-God was still posting here.
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Whooops!
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06-30-2014, 03:36 PM
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you go girl--um, lady ministers in the UPC? Wow, things have changed, i guess! 
ok, and i don't discount NFS's post, either--two sides to every coin.
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06-30-2014, 03:53 PM
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Re: Question?
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you go girl--um, lady ministers in the UPC? Wow, things have changed, i guess!
ok, and i don't discount NFS's post, either--two sides to every coin. |
There have always been lady ministers in the UPC. Pastors too. Not without discrimination though..... 
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06-30-2014, 05:24 PM
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Re: Question?
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Didn't realize this Lady Man-of-God was still posting here.
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Lol! Just another example of "stuff" I am quite used to after 35+ years. In the UPCI and out.
But this particular issue was settled long ago. 
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06-30-2014, 05:36 PM
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Re: Question?
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Originally Posted by LadyRev
I've read far more of your posts than I have responded to and the pattern is always the same.
You claim to be an expert on religion, particularly, the UPCI, and you paint everything and everyone with ONE BIG BRUSH!
I have been in the UPCI for 35+ years, I have been a licensed minister in the UPCI for over 15 years.
You are not the only one on this forum or in this world thats "been around and experienced some stuff". But you sure do post like you are all alone in this matter and thus you "know it all" and you have "seen the light" and have been "delivered".
In case you missed it, I have considered all of "my" experiences in the UPCI and I have chosen to REMAIN associated with the UPCI. The reason for this is because my RELATIONSHIP is not with an organization or a church or a set of rules. My RELATIONSHIP is with Jesus Christ.
That being said, being in a RELATIONSHIP with Jesus Christ doesn't mean I'm going to sit back and ignore lies and pure hate being spewed out about my organization or church of choice.
You should really try for a RELATIONSHIP and give up the oldest game in history...the BLAME GAME! Blaming an organization, blaming other people for your issues. The blame game has been going on since Adam and Eve. And even though they played the game well, it didn't keep them from being kicked out of the garden!
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The first bold statement: If your Relationship is what counts, you should be able to walk away from Organized Religion to discover what you're missing. If you decide to do this, you will see how much these people love you.
The second bold statement: Give up on the oldest "Game" in history? Let me ask you one simple question: Have you EVER really talked to Jesus?
Oh, and you were there when Adam and Eve were "KICKED" out of the Garden.
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06-30-2014, 05:53 PM
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Re: Question?
I was in the UPC over 30 years, and knew of many licensed female ministers and pastors.
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06-30-2014, 05:53 PM
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Re: Question?
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Originally Posted by LadyRev
I've read far more of your posts than I have responded to and the pattern is always the same.
You claim to be an expert on religion, particularly, the UPCI, and you paint everything and everyone with ONE BIG BRUSH!
I have been in the UPCI for 35+ years, I have been a licensed minister in the UPCI for over 15 years.
You are not the only one on this forum or in this world thats "been around and experienced some stuff". But you sure do post like you are all alone in this matter and thus you "know it all" and you have "seen the light" and have been "delivered".
In case you missed it, I have considered all of "my" experiences in the UPCI and I have chosen to REMAIN associated with the UPCI. The reason for this is because my RELATIONSHIP is not with an organization or a church or a set of rules. My RELATIONSHIP is with Jesus Christ.
That being said, being in a RELATIONSHIP with Jesus Christ doesn't mean I'm going to sit back and ignore lies and pure hate being spewed out about my organization or church of choice.
You should really try for a RELATIONSHIP and give up the oldest game in history...the BLAME GAME! Blaming an organization, blaming other people for your issues. The blame game has been going on since Adam and Eve. And even though they played the game well, it didn't keep them from being kicked out of the garden!
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07-01-2014, 12:44 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Question?
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Originally Posted by NotforSale
The first bold statement: If your Relationship is what counts, you should be able to walk away from Organized Religion to discover what you're missing. If you decide to do this, you will see how much these people love you.
The second bold statement: Give up on the oldest "Game" in history? Let me ask you one simple question: Have you EVER really talked to Jesus?
Oh, and you were there when Adam and Eve were "KICKED" out of the Garden.
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Should be able to? Sure she is. She just told you she doesn't want to.
Her relationship is with Jesus. She is happy.
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