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Old 07-10-2014, 03:24 PM
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I agree with that!!!
Definitely wish that some would get over their bitterness!
It is a good feeling to get the joy of the Lord back!!!
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:04 PM
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I have always wondered how Oneness Pentecostal churches can corporately sing praise and worship songs written by Trinitarians, or how Oneness Pentecostal pastors read books written by Trinitarians and quote those authors during their sermons.
I don't see the problem that I need to address....Why do Trinitarians use songs by Oneness?

Why do they use Lexicons by Unitarians (Thayers)?
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:06 PM
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I have always wondered how Oneness Pentecostal churches can corporately sing praise and worship songs written by Trinitarians, or how Oneness Pentecostal pastors read books written by Trinitarians and quote those authors during their sermons.

It never fails when my wife and I attend a Christian music concert with Trinitarian singers, the front rows are filled with young Apostolic girls listening and clapping and singing along, yet they are taught by doctrine these same Christian singers are hell bound.

I don’t understand!

Are they looking our way???
BTW I've never heard my Pastor say all Trinitarians are hell bound...and on the reverse note I HAVE been told by many many Trinitarians that I am hell bound

There is a HUGE double standard out there where Trinitarians rail on OPs for things Trinitarians also do

Same goes for non-Trinitarians or those who are just uncommitted who rail on OPs as if it's just a Oneness thing
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:07 PM
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I don't see the problem that I need to address....Why do Trinitarians use songs by Oneness?

Why do they use Lexicons by Unitarians (Thayers)?
Was there a problem that needed to be addressed?

Honestly I don't have an answer to those questions and they are good questions.
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The thing about a song is, if it accurately reflects the truth of the Word, it's automatically good in the eyes of the Lord. It doesn't matter who wrote it or what they believe. The lyrics are merely a reflection of what has already been established by Christ, the Apostles and Prophets.

No other cornerstone can be laid but for Jesus. If a song lifts and exalts Him, I don't see God being displeased. Neither do I see Him being displeased if such a song is sung congregationally in worship, even if the person who wrote it didn't or doesn't have all of their doctrinal ducks in a row.
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Was there a problem that needed to be addressed?

Honestly I don't have an answer to those questions and they are good questions.
According to you there was

Title "riddle me this"

Where is the riddle?

Here is your riddle/problem I suppose you wanted addressed

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I have always wondered how Oneness Pentecostal churches can corporately sing praise and worship songs written by Trinitarians, or how Oneness Pentecostal pastors read books written by Trinitarians and quote those authors during their sermons.
I don't see the problem. Trinitarians do it too..what's the riddle?
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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BTW I've never heard my Pastor say all Trinitarians are hell bound...and on the reverse note I HAVE been told by many many Trinitarians that I am hell bound

There is a HUGE double standard out there where Trinitarians rail on OPs for things Trinitarians also do

Same goes for non-Trinitarians or those who are just uncommitted who rail on OPs as if it's just a Oneness thing
It is a game we play with each other. Its not cool.

I have been bashed by Trins for my view of the Godhead.

Many in both camps condemn the other camp to hell, as if we are God.
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:11 PM
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According to you there was

Title "riddle me this"

Where is the riddle?

Here is your riddle/problem I suppose you wanted addressed



I don't see the problem. Trinitarians do it too..what's the riddle?
It was just a catchy title......made you look
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:15 PM
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Re: Riddle Me This!

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BTW I've never heard my Pastor say all Trinitarians are hell bound...and on the reverse note I HAVE been told by many many Trinitarians that I am hell bound

There is a HUGE double standard out there where Trinitarians rail on OPs for things Trinitarians also do

Same goes for non-Trinitarians or those who are just uncommitted who rail on OPs as if it's just a Oneness thing
I think you have hit the nail in the head
Some Oneness rail and already have condemned Trinitarians to hell.
Some Trinitarians rail and already have condemned Oneness to hell.

I have never once said that all Trinitarians are lost.
I have never once said that all Trinitarians are saved.

It is not up to me or to anyone to make that final decision.

I personally think, it is wrong for both sides to do such thing.
Two wrongs do not make one right.
It is not for us to make the decision as to who goes or not to hell, that decision belongs to God alone.
Leave the judgment up to God.
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