Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by BobDylan

I have a question, how many of you esteemed siblings of the gospel believe Steve is on the right track vs. wrong track? I'm curious because I believe he can adjust his position and still maintain a semblance of his heritage. Has he assumed a posture that will cast it all aside? If so, where does it end, and will it affect his view of the oneness of God and the new birth?

Bump, any thoughts?

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Direct quotes from minute 40 to minute 44...

"If the Word doesn't teach it, you don't get to teach it. You don't get this pastoral authority thing that goes beyond the Word."

"I remember lying on my face and saying "God, if I make these changes, if these standards here get changed, if I change this and I change that, if I allow this and I allow that, God, I will destroy my Daddy's church. There won't be nothing left of my Dad's church when I'm done, Lord. His legacy will be destroyed. His legacy will be ended. God his ministry has been destroyed because of what I've done to his church.

And I remember lying on my face before God...and I remember the Holy Ghost speaking to me and saying "This is not your Daddy's church. This is not your church. It's My (God's) church. And you are going to obey what I tell you to do."

And that, right there, is the problem with Nepotistic Dynasties in the Church.

There is no foundation but that which was already laid, which is Jesus Christ. However a man has built on this foundation, it will be tested with fire. Hence why we shouldn't go building on someone else's foundation, because their foundation may be found to be wood and stubble, and so, be consumed when ours is tested.

And now, Brother Pixler's foundation is about to be tried by fire and much of his father's foundation may go up in smoke.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by BobDylan

Bump, any thoughts?

There is only one track, the strait and narrow. I think a man, if he is sincerely seeking the Lord with his whole heart, and is willing to obey the leading of the Spirit, is walking the right track, even if no one else sees it presently.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by BobDylan

I have a question, how many of you esteemed siblings of the gospel believe Steve is on the right track vs. wrong track? I'm curious because I believe he can adjust his position and still maintain a semblance of his heritage. Has he assumed a posture that will cast it all aside? If so, where does it end, and will it affect his view of the oneness of God and the new birth?

Right track. I think he'll always be conservative compared to mainstream Christianity (which is a good thing). Most who come to understand the standards are a man made 20th century tradition also eventually have to come face to face with the fact that the soteriology of the movement is also a 20th century invention. There has never been any documented group/sect/denomination or even an individual so far as I am aware who taught that salvation consists of what modern day 3 step (and 3 step + standards+tithes+foot washing+etc) teach. To me it seems inevitable to arrive at justification by faith at some point (sometimes called 1 stepper on here).

I don't think it will affect his oneness or mode of water baptism. I'm not sure what his view of trinitarians is, but I'll bet he comes to believe the body of Christ is not just the oneness movement.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Right track. I think he'll always be conservative compared to mainstream Christianity (which is a good thing). Most who come to understand the standards are a man made 20th century tradition also eventually have to come face to face with the fact that the soteriology of the movement is also a 20th century invention. There has never been any documented group/sect/denomination or even an individual so far as I am aware who taught that salvation consists of what modern day 3 step (and 3 step + standards+tithes+foot washing+etc) teach. To me it seems inevitable to arrive at justification by faith at some point (sometimes called 1 stepper on here).

I don't think it will affect his oneness or mode of water baptism. I'm not sure what his view of trinitarians is, but I'll bet he comes to believe the body of Christ is not just the oneness movement.

Do you know Steve?

[Sean]

Just a thought...if we didnt treat these pastors like they were rock stars and just had a group of honest elders, with an official spokesman, running the churches, we wouldnt be tripping on this guy. This man is getting alot of attention, as if he is closer to the Lord than anyone else. When you are on the outside looking in, this is how it appears now....

[seguidordejesus]

Originally Posted by BobDylan

I have a question, how many of you esteemed siblings of the gospel believe Steve is on the right track vs. wrong track? I'm curious because I believe he can adjust his position and still maintain a semblance of his heritage. Has he assumed a posture that will cast it all aside? If so, where does it end, and will it affect his view of the oneness of God and the new birth?

Once you realize the crazy logic that "supports" standards, and begin applying it to the various doctrines espoused by Oneness Pentecostals (rather, seeing it for what it is), there's no telling where you'll end up.

[seguidordejesus]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Right track. I think he'll always be conservative compared to mainstream Christianity (which is a good thing). Most who come to understand the standards are a man made 20th century tradition also eventually have to come face to face with the fact that the soteriology of the movement is also a 20th century invention. There has never been any documented group/sect/denomination or even an individual so far as I am aware who taught that salvation consists of what modern day 3 step (and 3 step + standards+tithes+foot washing+etc) teach. To me it seems inevitable to arrive at justification by faith at some point (sometimes called 1 stepper on here).

I don't think it will affect his oneness or mode of water baptism. I'm not sure what his view of trinitarians is, but I'll bet he comes to believe the body of Christ is not just the oneness movement.

[Steve Epley]

Time tells all things. This will be the third time in the same city a church has went down the drain. We shall see.

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Time tells all things. This will be the third time in the same city a church has went down the drain. We shall see.

Very sad.

I pray that many will realize what is happening and leave before they fall into the same deception.

Are there any other solid churches in the immediate area Bro Epley?