To be honest, I don't know what a Relationship is that doesn't involve a physical interaction with the opposing party.
I attempted to force my mind to accept what others told me about God and Relationship, but IMO, Religion is a prison which attempts to put God behind the bars of their idea.
Too me, God is far bigger than a Book or a Religion.
I agree. God is not a book nor a religion. But faith, which cannot be seen and isn't tangible in any way, is what I base my relationship with Jesus Christ upon, because without faith, He is nothing to me.
I pray you someday receive faith to have a relationship with God. He's much more than physical.
I agree. God is not a book nor a religion. But faith, which cannot be seen and isn't tangible in any way, is what I base my relationship with Jesus Christ upon, because without faith, He is nothing to me.
I pray you someday receive faith to have a relationship with God. He's much more than physical.
Sasha, I do have what you call a, "Relationship", but I don't see it the same way you do.
Relationship with the Great Creator must abound with physical evidence, otherwise my Faith can trail into the oblivion of Fantasy.
When you consider that a majority of the Human Race doesn't even know what a Bible is, seeking God was done without Religion and its tentacles of lies and Laws that isolate people into groups that think everyone else is lost.
Not only does that conflict with the Law of Nature, it conflicts with common sense and true mercy for those who lack our ability(s).
Sasha, I do have what you call a, "Relationship", but I don't see it the same way you do.
Relationship with the Great Creator must abound with physical evidence, otherwise my Faith can trail into the oblivion of Fantasy.
When you consider that a majority of the Human Race doesn't even know what a Bible is, seeking God was done without Religion and its tentacles of lies and Laws that isolate people into groups that think everyone else is lost.
Not only does that conflict with the Law of Nature, it conflicts with common sense and true mercy for those who lack our ability(s).
What physical evidence can you supply that proves your relationship with Jesus?
As for your assertion that a majority doesn't know what a Bible is, I'm not sure where your assertion comes from, but scripture has always been around and even available to a majority of the human race, save a few instances and moments in times past. Even people who don't believe in God have a book about their beliefs, in most cases.
What physical evidence can you supply that proves your relationship with Jesus?
As for your assertion that a majority doesn't know what a Bible is, I'm not sure where your assertion comes from, but scripture has always been around and even available to a majority of the human race, save a few instances and moments in times past. Even people who don't believe in God have a book about their beliefs, in most cases.
You need to do research on the Bible and its Origin. Modern printing presses were not invented until just a few Centuries ago, and the Canon was not complete until the end of the 4th Century.
Were Adam and Eve given a Book in the Garden?
Physical evidence of God is all around us. Creation is God's handiwork, or invention, and we can learn about the Inventor if we study the Invention. Simple as can be!
You can see, hear, and feel the wind when it is filled with dust, blows trees down, and touches your face.
Your "Relationship" is nothing more than a Culturally based idea, not an actual Relationship. Look at my Profile picture; that is a Relationship of 34 years and God's intended purpose to gain understanding about life, love, and the hardships of life.
For me personally, my ideas about God come from what I see and experience, not what I'm told in a Religion that revels in Spectral Evidence, where people claim that God talks to them.
I have seen God heal. I have felt His presence. My relationship is not based on a cultural idea, it's not based on some Pastor, it's not based on your dumb Spectral Evidence, straw man nonsense. My relationship is real, and has brought me through a lot of hard times.
It's absurd that you bash everyone's belief in God but your own. You mock and laugh at those who, like me, believe in the Bible and have a relationship with God. Yet you turn around and post "my ideas about God come from what I see and experience..." How ironic! Because my ideas and beliefs of God and His Word come from what I have both seen and personally experienced.
And who the devil are you to try and tell me it's not real?
I have seen God heal. I have felt His presence. My relationship is not based on a cultural idea, it's not based on some Pastor, it's not based on your dumb Spectral Evidence, straw man nonsense. My relationship is real, and has brought me through a lot of hard times.
It's absurd that you bash everyone's belief in God but your own. You mock and laugh at those who, like me, believe in the Bible and have a relationship with God. Yet you turn around and post "my ideas about God come from what I see and experience..." How ironic! Because my ideas and beliefs of God and His Word come from what I have both seen and personally experienced.
And who the devil are you to try and tell me it's not real?
Show me proof of the "Healing". Not a maybe, or might have been. Solid evidence, not Spectral Evidence.
My "dumb" Spectral Evidence? (Do you even know what Spectral Evidence is?) Show me where and when!
Your Relationship is fine if you so desire to believe in something you can't prove, just don't mock me if I don't agree with your unseen premise about God and Faith.
n david, I'm not here to bash anyone. I'm here to help people who have been abused by Religion and the lies within. In all sincerity, I don't think you do enough research to understand the truths you've never heard of.
My "dumb" Spectral Evidence? (Do you even know what Spectral Evidence is?) Show me where and when!
Yes, dumb Specral Evidence....used in the Salem Witch trials where a witness claimed a witch's spirit appeared in a dream.
"Spectral evidence is a form of evidence based upon dreams and visions." I can read Wikipedia, too.
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Show me proof of the "Healing". Not a maybe, or might have been. Solid evidence, not Spectral Evidence.
Again, no need of your dumb Spectral Evidence. No dreams or visions of witches here. And I do have specific examples of healings, but I'm not going to share them because you'll only mock and try to explain your humanistic junk into it. Since it's personal and happened with both me and my mother, I won't allow it. Multiple Dr's confirmed it and there are tests and other documents which prove that which was there miraculously disappeared.
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Your Relationship is fine if you so desire to believe in something you can't prove, just don't mock me if I don't agree with your unseen premise about God and Faith.
It's been proven, time and again. Your blindness to it doesn't make it any less real or proven.
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n david, I'm not here to bash anyone. I'm here to help people who have been abused by Religion and the lies within.
Pretty sure the majority here neither want nor need your "help."
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In all sincerity, I don't think you do enough research to understand the truths you've never heard of.
How condescending and narcissistic. Every post you make is all about how your belief and opinion is better than everyone else's. Maybe I should read more Wiki articles or watch more YouTube videos, right?
I walk by faith and not by demanding proof or evidence of every little belief. In the end, all will stand before God in judgement. I'm secure in what I believe.
Yes, dumb Specral Evidence....used in the Salem Witch trials where a witness claimed a witch's spirit appeared in a dream.
"Spectral evidence is a form of evidence based upon dreams and visions." I can read Wikipedia, too.
Again, no need of your dumb Spectral Evidence. No dreams or visions of witches here. And I do have specific examples of healings, but I'm not going to share them because you'll only mock and try to explain your humanistic junk into it. Since it's personal and happened with both me and my mother, I won't allow it. Just know multiple Dr's confirmed it and there are tests and other documents which prove that which was there miraculously disappeared.
It's been proven, time and again. Your blindness to it doesn't make it any less real or proven.
Pretty sure the majority here neither want nor need your "help."
How condescending and narcissistic. Every post you make is all about how your belief and opinion is better than everyone else's. Maybe I should read more Wiki articles or watch more YouTube videos, right?
I walk by faith and not by demanding proof or evidence of every little belief. In the end, all will stand before God in judgement. I'm secure in what I believe.
Again, no proof about your so called, Miracle, and, no proof that I use Spectral Evidence to validate truth. And, there were no Witches at the Salem Witch Trials. 19 innocent people were murdered, and hundreds imprisoned over Spectral (unseen) Evidence.
You also claim your belief system is better than mine, which is obvious in your post. You call me, blind, humanistic, condescending, narcissistic, and dumb (a word not allowed on this Forum).
Again, no proof about your so called, Miracle, and, no proof that I use Spectral Evidence to validate truth.
I have proof. As I posted, there are Dr's notes, test results and other health-related documents. Understand, I'm not one who runs around calling everything a miracle. A friend of mine was diagnosed with cancer and went through rigorous chemo treatments. After months of treatments, the Dr's said the cancer was gone. He's been healthy now for almost two years and has had a few checkups which confirm he's cancer-free. I don't call this a miracle, but believe God gave him strength and healing through the treatments.
That which I do call miracles are things which happen without any help from medication, treatments, etc. And which have notes, test results and other docs to show it was a miracle.
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And, there were no Witches at the Salem Witch Trials. 19 innocent people were murdered, and hundreds imprisoned over Spectral (unseen) Evidence.
I never said there were witches at the Salem Witch trial, did I? I said a witness claimed that the spirit of a witch appeared in a dream. (This per your favorite scientific source, Wikipedia)
"Spectral evidence was testimony that the accused witch's spirit (i.e. spectre) appeared to the witness in a dream or vision (for example, a black cat or wolf). The dream or vision was admitted as evidence."
You also claim your belief system is better than mine, which is obvious in your post. You call me, blind, humanistic, condescending, narcissistic, and dumb (a word not allowed on this Forum).
Read again, "dumb" was used to describe Spectral Evidence, not you. And yes, I do believe you to be blind, humanistic, condescending and narcissistic.
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We are all sinners there, Mr. Righteous.
Never said we weren't. Nor did I, or do I, claim to be righteous.
I have seen God heal. I have felt His presence. My relationship is not based on a cultural idea, it's not based on some Pastor, it's not based on your dumb Spectral Evidence, straw man nonsense. My relationship is real, and has brought me through a lot of hard times.
It's absurd that you bash everyone's belief in God but your own. You mock and laugh at those who, like me, believe in the Bible and have a relationship with God. Yet you turn around and post "my ideas about God come from what I see and experience..." How ironic! Because my ideas and beliefs of God and His Word come from what I have both seen and personally experienced.
And who the devil are you to try and tell me it's not real?
This kind of thing could be posted by Mormons, Muslims, Hindus, Shintoists, etc. Who are you to say their experiences aren't real?
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