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Old 07-24-2014, 09:57 AM
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Re: If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....

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This man/woman walks into your assembly, professing himself to be a believer:

Scriptural answers only, no hypocrisy.
Well I shall answer with scriptures. Although I only will give a couple of scriptures the rest my arguments are clearly backed up by scriptures too numerous to quote.

Genesis 1:27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

Genesis 2:21-22 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

At the creation God created Adam first and then Eve from Adam.
Eve was not a separate creation, but was created out of Adam genes.
Eve was taken from a rib of Adam. That a woman can be created from male genes, means that within Adam there are must be some female genes.

Although God used the same flesh, yet he made her different and this difference was always stressed in the scriptures, much to the chagrin of the feminists, she was made as a helpmeet and companion of Adam. (on the other hand we can say that Adam is helpless and hopeless without Eve)

The differences in the sexes was maintained in the Bible and culture in many different ways.

1. By the usual phrase the man and his wife or something similar, which always put the man first. (Genesis 3:8, many more)

2. By physical limitations. Usually the man is taller and stronger than the woman. Both man and woman can do some of the same tasks, but on different levels. A man will usually run faster than a woman, and lift heavier loads than a woman. (Exceptions of course exist)

3. By dress codes, for although both men and women wore robes, their style of clothing and adornments was different. (the scriptures mention some things that women wore that men did not)

4. By many more cultural norms, like only men being soldiers, and the division of labor where some chores became classed as woman's work even though most men could also do them. (Scriptures generally confirm this)

5. By the Law of Moses. The Law described distinct rules and rites for men and women. This was enforced by the authorities.

So we can see that the Bible created a clear distinction in the way man and woman were to behave and even how to dress. There is no equality and unisex look in the Bible.

The effort to erase the differences between man and woman does not come from the Bible, but from human fallibility. That is why the feminists want men to shave their beards, because the beard is a distinct male characteristic that creates a clear difference between a man and a woman.

The Bible is clear that the homosexual shall not enter into heaven, but also it includes the effeminate. 1 Corinthians 6:9
Effeminates are those who want to imitate woman's manners.

I think I have provided a biblical foundation for the precept of man and woman looking distinctly different.
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Old 07-24-2014, 10:13 AM
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Re: If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....

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No standards people want us to accept all the women in the church that don't hold to the standards we believe the Bible says they should keep, and yet not a one of them would allow a man with long, flowing hair, jewelry, make-up and some kind of dress/skirt on (even if originally designed for a man), to lift a finger at their church, let alone continue to attend (unless repentance and a change of heart was just around the corner).

Women can get away with it, but men have to look like men: short hair, no jewelry, no make-up, obvious masculine, meant for a man, clothing. Why? Because it's cultural (i.e. NOT BIBLICAL).

For the woman, it's all extra-Biblical standards. For the man, it's just life. Women aren't in trouble with their Savior, but men dare to look a little feminine, and their labeled freaks and pedophiles.

This is called misandry, folks, if anyone cares to know. And it's wrong. Just like hypocrisy.
First of all everyone has standards, no one is totally without standards.
I know of no Christian nudist Apostolic group (Not yet anyway) so the claim that some people have No standards is an exaggeration.

The difference is that many of us insist that standards must be supported by the Bible, if they are not then those standards are just the traditions of men.
They could even be good traditions(After all the Pharisees washing of pots, pans and hands were good)
But the problem is that the Pharisees elevated their traditions even above the word of God. They actually considered the traditions of the elders on a higher level than the word of God. and when there was a conflict between their traditions and the word of God, they preferred their traditions.

Men can not look a little feminine, because the Bible says that no effeminate (Those who behave or appear to be female) shall inherit the Kingdom of heaven.
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Old 07-24-2014, 10:16 AM
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Men have always worn paint (makeup if you want to call it that)... lol

Where did you got my picture from?
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Old 07-24-2014, 05:10 PM
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Men have always worn paint (makeup if you want to call it that)... lol



Well...now they're looking more like this.
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:40 PM
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Re: If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....

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It goes back to the matter of the heart. For what purpose are you doing something... that is what really matters.

If you apply makeup or camouflage paint as a male because you are going hunting or are in war, what is wrong with that?

If, as a female, you use makeup much like adding a belt or a scarf to your outfit to compliment your attire, what is wrong with that?

If however, you are applying makeup to look like a "whore" and attract the gaze and stare and attention of other men, then that is a problem. If as a man, you are putting on makeup because you want to look like a woman, that is a problem.

The heart issue remains the key note here, imo.
I have never once felt like dressing like a whore since I left OP. Just sayin'
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I have never once felt like dressing like a whore since I left OP. Just sayin'
Wow, better be careful about using the term "dressing like a whore" that will get a picket line in front of your home or place of business pretty quick. Political correctness says there is no definition for what is considered "dressing like a whore" anymore. So, let's all go back to sleep because our government and media is taking care of everything.
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I have never once felt like dressing like a whore since I left OP. Just sayin'
Good for you.
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Old 07-24-2014, 07:28 PM
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Wow, better be careful about using the term "dressing like a whore" that will get a picket line in front of your home or place of business pretty quick. Political correctness says there is no definition for what is considered "dressing like a whore" anymore. So, let's all go back to sleep because our government and media is taking care of everything.
Um, everybody has a pretty good idea of what "dressing like a whore" means. And it doesn't mean showing your knees and wearing a tank-top. Just sayin.
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Old 07-24-2014, 07:34 PM
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I have never once felt like dressing like a whore since I left OP. Just sayin'
Let's all shout together...
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Um, everybody has a pretty good idea of what "dressing like a whore" means. And it doesn't mean showing your knees and wearing a tank-top. Just sayin.
Everyone has a pretty good idea? Evidently not anymore, as the times change and people move further away from a culture that covered up their hide, and knew what was the attire of a harlot. You prove that with the last line of your post. There was a time 1960s when the tank top would of lifted an eyebrow. When hot pants first came out a.k.a short shorts, people were shocked. As I said recently to a couple who commented on me wearing a suit Sunday morning, I told them that by the time my daughters are my age people will be wearing pelts and walking around nude. So much for the "dressing like a whore" comment.

Our culture is so backward it isn't funny making fun of holiness standards of Pentecostals is something ex-conservatives do among themselves. The rest of the thinking world is wondering what in God's name went wrong. You will be surprised how statistically people tend to move towards stricter forms of religion due to its promise of stability when the world around them is changing for the worst. My friend's ROCOR church is seeing a big surge of not only old members coming back, but new converts. This particular ROCOR church doesn't even have pews (only for the elderly) but people stand for the liturgy.

Islam winning converts and look at their standards, even people moving towards conservative Judaism.

Sorry to steer off the path a tad, but let's face it, saying someone is dressing like a whore is becoming a thing of the past. Unless you live in Dog Lick South Middle of No Where.

Wow, ILG are you becoming more like your old alter ego as time goes by?
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