If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Yeah. I love Bro Benicasa. He can be sharp but I've got thick enough skin.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

It's okay, Sis. I think we both have enough notches in our swords to call it a day. Nice sparring with you. I hope your iron has been sharpened as much as mine has been.

Peace and God bless.

[SiblingRevelry]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I'm serious. There are babies born every day with ambiguous genitals. The practice has been (and continues to be in a lot of places here in the USA) to operate immediately and assign a sex to the poor child. I *hope* the doctors are doing genetic testing prior to these assignments, but that may not be much of a help if a child has certain genetic syndromes which present as neither XX (female) or XY (male) but as XXY or some other combination. It causes problems. I am aware of a lawsuit where parents adopted a foster child from the state who had been born with ambiguous genitals. Now the child is growing up and is not acting as the sex she or he (sorry, don't remember the story, don't intend any disrespect) was assigned by the doctors at birth. The parents think the state should be on the hook for fixing the issue since the state was so hot on getting a gender assignment immediately after birth.

Beyond mere biology, I know that some conservatives don't really like to hear about the cultural arguments, but seriously, what's considered masculine and feminine in our culture is not so in other cultures. Yet so many conservatives think American culture is the God-given culture and we must import our cultural mores to other countries, otherwise they're not really male or female as we consider male and female.

It's not as clear cut as you'd think, but I suspect if you met me, you'd consider me a "shemale," which is what I was called at age 17 by kids at church. Kids can be so cruel, even if you're keeping all the conservative standards: long hair, no makeup, no jewelry, etc.

[SiblingRevelry]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Originally Posted by votivesoul

We ought to have compassion and sympathy for anyone born in such a way. God is the author of life. He knows full well why some people are born genetically different than the majority of the population.

However, we should also realize that people born in such a way are rare exceptions to the rule, and therefore, shouldn't be rolled out as a legitimate reason for changing the rules.

What, so these people can stick out more because one must have a particular cultural appearance to be either male or female?

Seriously, what is the problem with accepting that human beings come in all sorts of different packages, fat, thin, short, tall, black, white, brown, etc., etc. Why are we so bound and determined to fit people into a predetermined package so that we can judge them by their externals as "holy," when in point of fact, Jesus told us to look to the inside of the cup, not to the outside?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by SiblingRevelry

I'm serious. There are babies born every day with ambiguous genitals. The practice has been (and continues to be in a lot of places here in the USA) to operate immediately and assign a sex to the poor child. I *hope* the doctors are doing genetic testing prior to these assignments, but that may not be much of a help if a child has certain genetic syndromes which present as neither XX (female) or XY (male) but as XXY or some other combination. It causes problems. I am aware of a lawsuit where parents adopted a foster child from the state who had been born with ambiguous genitals. Now the child is growing up and is not acting as the sex she or he (sorry, don't remember the story, don't intend any disrespect) was assigned by the doctors at birth. The parents think the state should be on the hook for fixing the issue since the state was so hot on getting a gender assignment immediately after birth.

This is indeed medically true.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by SiblingRevelry

What, so these people can stick out more because one must have a particular cultural appearance to be either male or female?

Seriously, what is the problem with accepting that human beings come in all sorts of different packages, fat, thin, short, tall, black, white, brown, etc., etc. Why are we so bound and determined to fit people into a predetermined package so that we can judge them by their externals as "holy," when in point of fact, Jesus told us to look to the inside of the cup, not to the outside?

Kinda like this. Now I am not flaming pro gay at all. The in your face gay agenda sickens me. But I look at this photo and think "Hmm, well they DO have a point!"

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by ILG

I could say that about a lot of cars too. But that would make me kind of judgmental maybe.

[Monterrey]

I have a white face.

I cover my white face at times with makeup.

Green makeup, brown makeup, black makeup, ....

Because if I don't then the deer won't accept me.

I must be accepted....

That is the only way that I can get an arrow into one of those deer deer deer!

Acceptance is the key!

I must be accepted!

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

I have a white face.

I cover my white face at times with makeup.

Green makeup, brown makeup, black makeup, ....

Because if I don't then the deer won't accept me.

I must be accepted....

That is the only way that I can get an arrow into one of those deer deer deer!

Acceptance is the key!

I must be accepted!

LOL! Gotta get them deer in really close for a good shot!

But you are gonna bust hell wide open for using that make up! Shame on you! Is that deer really worth it???

I prefer camo headgear myself so I guess I'm safe. That camo paint makes my face itch. I guess thats a sign huh?

[Aquila]

Some things should be between an individual and the Lord.