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08-15-2014, 08:22 PM
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Re: Baptism Weekend - 72 Baptized in Jesus Name!
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What is his background?
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Mormons?
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08-15-2014, 08:40 PM
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Re: Baptism Weekend - 72 Baptized in Jesus Name!
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I listened. He does good. He really needs to drop the slang (boobs, screw, butt). I realize that he is IDing with his crowd, but JFTR I didn't like it from Jeff Arnold either. jmho
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Ok....I have to ask...what does he do good at? What is good about his message or presentation/preaching?
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08-15-2014, 09:02 PM
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Re: Baptism Weekend - 72 Baptized in Jesus Name!
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Ok....I have to ask...what does he do good at? What is good about his message or presentation/preaching?
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Did you watch / listen to it so you could judge for yourself? Or are you just figuring out where he was coming from in his post? I am just curious. Sometimes posts are hard to figure out what the person is thinking.
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08-15-2014, 09:41 PM
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Re: Baptism Weekend - 72 Baptized in Jesus Name!
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Ok....I have to ask...what does he do good at? What is good about his message or presentation/preaching?
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Did you watch / listen to it so you could judge for yourself? Or are you just figuring out where he was coming from in his post? I am just curious. Sometimes posts are hard to figure out what the person is thinking.
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I watched and said "he did good". No hidden meaning. Nothing to figure out. Just Good. 1. He stuck to his thought, didn't ramble. 2. He knew what he was talking about. 3. Had good illustrations. 4. The audience seemed to enjoy his lesson. I could give you the negatives, but...
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08-16-2014, 06:22 AM
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Re: Baptism Weekend - 72 Baptized in Jesus Name!
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I watched and said "he did good". No hidden meaning. Nothing to figure out. Just Good. 1. He stuck to his thought, didn't ramble. 2. He knew what he was talking about. 3. Had good illustrations. 4. The audience seemed to enjoy his lesson. I could give you the negatives, but...
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I listened to two videos entitled "it starts with you" (I see that there are three) and I would agree with you that "he did good" yet, the particular words you previously mentioned in other posts didn't need to be used by the preacher . I guess he isn't wanting to preach to a larger audience ranging from different ages, but is mainly focusing on one group. A group who enjoys being cursed at while they are listening to a preacher "teach?"
Paul the Apostle was knocked down on his....
My wife was taking our children to a home school group which was out of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale and had to leave because the preacher/facilitator/speaker started to use what CC1 calls "everyday language."
Yes, Brother Jeff Arnold has used phrases which IMO didn't need to be fired over a pulpit.
But if Brother Arnold was being operated on I wouldn't post a disclaimer before I offered prayer.
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08-16-2014, 06:35 AM
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Re: Baptism Weekend - 72 Baptized in Jesus Name!
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Mormons? 
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He has the testimony of coming out of drugs and hanging out with rock bands.
Possibly CC1 can help us with the man's religious background?
Maybe his background was with Werner Erhard?
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08-16-2014, 01:02 PM
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Re: Baptism Weekend - 72 Baptized in Jesus Name!
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Did you watch / listen to it so you could judge for yourself? Or are you just figuring out where he was coming from in his post? I am just curious. Sometimes posts are hard to figure out what the person is thinking.
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Yes I watched it.
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08-16-2014, 01:08 PM
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Re: Baptism Weekend - 72 Baptized in Jesus Name!
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I watched and said "he did good". No hidden meaning. Nothing to figure out. Just Good. 1. He stuck to his thought, didn't ramble. 2. He knew what he was talking about. 3. Had good illustrations. 4. The audience seemed to enjoy his lesson. I could give you the negatives, but...
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Ok I was just wondering if you were complimenting his message or his presentation. I'm pretty certain I understand where you are coming from.
Once in a college speech class the we were assigned topics to debate and we were allowed to chose our side of the debate then the class was to vote in which side would win the debate based on the presentation. One group was debating same sex marriage. The conservative side of the debate was very ill prepared and had no strong argument while the liberal side did a "good job" presenting their views. Based on that I was forced to set aside my convictions and had to vote for the side which presented their case the best.
In the same way I would say "He did a good job".
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08-16-2014, 03:00 PM
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Re: Baptism Weekend - 72 Baptized in Jesus Name!
The guy did a "good job" with the subject matter. I really didn't watch to critique him, but was interested in his presentation on water baptism. He did a "good job" of presenting a PCI view of Jesus name baptism. Sorry I mentioned it.
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08-16-2014, 03:03 PM
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Re: Baptism Weekend - 72 Baptized in Jesus Name!
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The guy did a "good job" with the subject matter. I really didn't watch to critique him, but was interested in his presentation on water baptism. He did a "good job" of presenting a PCI view of Jesus name baptism. Sorry I mentioned it. 
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Actually some statements were bordering on the truth.  he seems conflicted?
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