Is there going to be a rapture????

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

MTD, just a question. The scripture says fear them which can kill a body, but can't kill a soul - note that the word "kill" is not repeated - your reasoning would make sense if the verse continued, "but rather fear him which is able to kill both the body and soul in hell."

Why do you think the word "kill" was not used in the second part of the verse? And why was a different word used - destroy - which has already been shown to mean something less than to kill.

Thanks.

Well Jesus COULD have used the same word but he rather used a word meaning the same thing. That happens all the time in the Bible and life today.

Has the word "destroy" been proven to mean something less than to kill?

Let us see.

Greek word 622 in Strongs.

13And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. Matt 2:13

So does Greek word here mean less than to kill?

4Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him. Matt 12:14

38But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. 39And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. 40When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? 41They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. Matt 21:38-41

9Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it? Luke 6:9

54And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 56For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. Luke 9:56

47And he taught daily in the temple. But the chief priests and the scribes and the chief of the people sought to destroy him, 48And could not find what they might do: for all the people were very attentive to hear him.

Now the word "destroyed" in these verses is the same exact Greek word 622. It is not a different word than "destroy" in Matt 10:28.

29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Luke 17:29

Did that fire KILL everyone left in Sodom? Or did it do something less?

26And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Luke 17:27

9Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. 10Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. 1 Cor 10:9-10

Now the word "perish" in the following verses is the exact same Greek word as used in Matt 10:28. This is not a different word.

52Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

So does this Greek word Strongs 622 mean something less than to kill?

Here?

37And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full. 38And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish?

Here?

1There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? 3I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. 4Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? 5I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Here?

31The same day there came certain of the Pharisees, saying unto him, Get thee out, and depart hence: for Herod will kill thee. 32And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected. 33Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. Luke 13:31

Also note in this verse the Pharisees said Herod would KILL Jesus. Jesus responded by saying a prophet must not PERISH out of Jerusalem. This is the same word usage by Jesus in Matt 10:28. God is able to KILL or DESTROY (Greek word 622) mens souls in Gehenna.

Here?

17And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger! Luke 15:17

Now consider this. There are yet more verses proving that this Greek word is used concerning killing or dying. I wont post any more because if one does not get the point after what I have posted adding more wont help.

For an immortal soul believer to say "destroy" cannot mean to kill or bring about death is like a Trinitarian saying "one" does not really mean "one".

Peace and love.