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Old 09-03-2014, 05:26 PM
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Just saw this move last week. It was an okay movie. When he said that Jesus was on a "rainbow" horse, I felt I needed to read the book. My DIL happened to have purchased it and I read it last night.

I have news for little boy Colton:

"And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne." Revelation 4:2

Page 95: Speaking of his sister that was stillborn. "It's okay Mommy," he said. "She's okay. God adopted her."

"Don't you mean Jesus adopted her?" she said.

"No Mommy. His Dad did."

What?

Page 100: "God is the biggest one there is. And he really, really loves us, Dad. You can't belieeeeve how much he loves us!"

"And do you know that Jesus sits right next to God?"

"Jesus' chair is right next to his Dad's!"

Page 101: "Well, pretend like you're in God's throne. Jesus sat right there," he said pointing to my right side.

Page 102: So, I'd had my glimpse into God's throne room, but Colton's descriptions had me wondering: if God the Father was seated on his throne with Jesus on his right and Gabriel on his left, where was Colton?

"They brought in a little chair for me," he said smiling. "I sat by God the Holy Spirit. Did you know that God is three persons, Dad?"

"I was sitting by God the Holy Spirit because I was praying for you. You needed the Holy Spirit, so I prayed for you."

So, I closed the book......
yea... Mrs. Ferd has been reading it. She handed me the book when she read that....

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Old 09-03-2014, 09:36 PM
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What are you implying? This is like a hate post.
It was! 'Cause you know I always think about how much I hate you, right?
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:39 PM
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yea... Mrs. Ferd has been reading it. She handed me the book when she read that....

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The movie doesn't really reflect the blatant view in the book, unless I missed it. It was kind of boring, so I am sure I wasn't paying very close attention. I was probably playing Sudoku while the movie was on. LOL!

It really ticked me off for some reason. Maybe I felt the deeper dishonesty of it.
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:50 PM
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So everyone is saved? Sounds like Hinduism.




Everyone gets converted, all are reconciled to God by the finished work of Jesus. Jesus work at the cross was to UNDO Adam, He came into the creation to redeem the creation. He is the cure to the disease, and was so from the foundation of the world. All thru the finished work of God's plan of redemption.

Is your god, one that cannot finish what he started, cannot redeem his creation because of the foolish act of one of his creatures?????
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:56 PM
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The only thing with him coming through an OP lens is that it wouldn't have contradicted the Bible. That's, like, a big, red, no-brainer flag.

I Googled his interview on the Today show and noticed that his father and mother spoke for him. Why wouldn't they? He is twelve now. He also sounded rehearsed.

One thing that struck me as odd, from the book, is that the father said it took "months and years" to get the full story from Colton. That is very odd as a 4 year old generally talks your ear off about an experience he has had or a place he has been.

During the interview he was asked what vivid memories he still remembers. He stated that he had two vivid memories - his grandfather and Jesus. So, he has two physical photo collaboration's embeded in his mind that his parents happen to have and have showed him throughout these years. That makes his memory questionable.

If his parents told him that he said he saw a "rainbow" horse that belonged to Jesus, he is going to say that he remembers that.

At first I thought he may have possibly had some type of experience, but now I am not sure he has had one at all.

I'm going to have to agree with Bro. Benincasa on this.
Like I said, had it been an OP, many here would have lapped it up.

I read the book when it first came out, I don't like the movie nor the current interviews.
I don't defend it, because I disagree with most of the theology that the family espouses.
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:05 PM
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Like I said, had it been an OP, many here would have lapped it up.

I read the book when it first came out, I don't like the movie nor the current interviews.
I don't defend it, because I disagree with most of the theology that the family espouses.
Well, at least the movie God's Not Dead emphatically said that Jesus was God. I was impressed with that movie. Some cheesy elements, but they got the debate down really well.
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:23 PM
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Anyone remotely interested should watch some of Eben Alexander's, as well as Howard Storm and Anita Moorjani's to name a scant few.
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Re: Heaven is for Real Movie

In the days of Jeremiah, when false prophets were propping up their dreams as signs and omens from God, God used Jeremiah to rhetorically ask the people "What is the chaff compared to the wheat"?

It's the same thing with NDE's or Near Death Experiences. Like dreams, they may be interesting, they even be fascinating, and some may be accurate, and some may even be from God---all well and good---but what is the chaff compared to the wheat?

The wheat, i.e. the Word of God, is all that matters in the end. The rest gets blown away by the wind.
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Everyone gets converted, all are reconciled to God by the finished work of Jesus. Jesus work at the cross was to UNDO Adam, He came into the creation to redeem the creation. He is the cure to the disease, and was so from the foundation of the world. All thru the finished work of God's plan of redemption.

Is your god, one that cannot finish what he started, cannot redeem his creation because of the foolish act of one of his creatures?????
CJ in Acts 2:38 Peter told them to repent on the day of Pentecost, in Acts 17:30 the Apostle Paul addresses the Areopagus concerning the false doctrines among the Greeks, and states that in the past God overlooked the ignorance of men, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. CJ, your teaching causes more questions then it answers.

While your doctrine is fine for Hindus (in Hinduism even demons can obtain a salvation) but in Christianity your teaching hits a wall. Sorry, but Jesus commanded that all men REPENT! Yet, sadly that isn't what some men what to do. Hence freewill plays in this, but in Hinduism and Calvinism there isn't any freewill but fate, either you are predestined to hell or heaven.

Yet, in your paradigm you hold a sort of Hyper Calvinism (to be honest what you believe stands Hyper Calvinism on its head) your teaching places everyone from sinner to saint ending up in heaven. Jesus said it was finished at the cross, but the book of Acts still have a ministry baptizing and commanding all to repent.
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Anyone remotely interested should watch some of Eben Alexander's, as well as Howard Storm and Anita Moorjani's to name a scant few.
Thank you for bringing them up.

When a Hindu has a near death experience and they see Krishna does that mean Krishna is real to them or to us?
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