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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
I know this is a big joke to all of you tithe teachers, but the reality is....when you die, you will go to hell. The Lord does not give folks the holy Ghost to vindicate their beliefs, but to lead them out of false doctrine. If you dont see it now, the Lord will not allow you into heaven for teaching your heresy. I have noticed that there is NO rebuttal on your part, just scoffing. That is a sign of your false doctrine being acknowledged by yourselves. You know that tithing is false doctrine and you just dont care. This is not about me....this is going to cost you eternity without God.
You guys have done business with Satan all of your Christian lives and whenever you die, you will follow him to a place of torment.
There is no place for heretical teachers in heaven. You better fix it while you are on earth.
NO.
You're way out of line Sean. Way out.
You have no right to tell people who trust in Christ as their Savior they are going to hell over misunderstanding a doctrine. Will some tithe preachers go to hell? Undoubtedly. Will it be because they were misinformed about tithing? Doubtful. Those who teach the tithe and are lost will likely be so because of greed, covetousness, and the fact they were never regenerated by the Spirit to begin with.
Many people really have little understanding or confidence in the grace of God. Tis not grace to continue in sin or not repent, but His grace will cover our ignorance. We're all wrong about something doctrinally. Salvation is by grace through faith in Christ. Not doctrinal accuracy on non essentials.
And you will find few people more vocal than I against tithing. No need for the types of things you're saying Sean.
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
You have no right to tell people who trust in Christ as their Savior they are going to hell over misunderstanding a doctrine. Will some tithe preachers go to hell? Undoubtedly. Will it be because they were misinformed about tithing? Doubtful. Those who teach the tithe and are lost will likely be so because of greed, covetousness, and the fact they were never regenerated by the Spirit to begin with.
Many people really have little understanding or confidence in the grace of God. Tis not grace to continue in sin or not repent, but His grace will cover our ignorance. We're all wrong about something doctrinally. Salvation is by grace through faith in Christ. Not doctrinal accuracy on non essentials.
And you will find few people more vocal than I against tithing. No need for the types of things you're saying Sean.
Jason, did Paul teach that grace covers false teaching, or did he go after it and correct it immediately?
False teachers must be reprimanded and after a few warnings, considered HERETICS. I have been debating and admonishing some of then for 18 months now. They need to hear the real truth of what this wretched Catholic doctrine is doing to mankind and their own selves. They are no different than other religions that get the Holy Ghost and CONTINUE in error.
Paul would have cleaned their clock if he were here today.
Jason, did Paul teach that grace covers false teaching, or did he go after it and correct it immediately?
False teachers must be reprimanded and after a few warnings, considered HERETICS. I have been debating and admonishing some of then for 18 months now. They need to hear the real truth of what this wretched Catholic doctrine is doing to mankind and their own selves. They are no different than other religions that get the Holy Ghost and CONTINUE in error.
Paul would have cleaned their clock if he were here today.
Nah. Too many people are too eager to tear fellow believers to shreds. There are heresies that deserve your strong language. Those who affirm gays can be Christians and even go so far as to marry them. Those who believe Muslims are saved w/o repenting and trusting in Christ. And others.
Your best argument against those who teach tithes (and standards) is they are perverting the gospel by works-righteousness. However even though that be the case I'm not so sure I'd say folks who teach tithing or standards are committing the same heresy as the Judaizers and condemn them to hell. I strongly disagree with Steve Epley and others on here. But really do I think they're going to hell? No, I would be surprised. Its possible, especially since Steve Epley condemns everyone. If he was judged by his own measure that'd be tough on him. But I believe the grace of God will keep those who trust in Him despite their ignorance and even arrogance.
As for Paul cleaning their clock, in one sense that's probably true for all Christian denominations and people. However I think you would do well to read Romans 14:9-14. Who are you to judge another's servant?
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
Nah. Too many people are too eager to tear fellow believers to shreds. There are heresies that deserve your strong language. Those who affirm gays can be Christians and even go so far as to marry them. Those who believe Muslims are saved w/o repenting and trusting in Christ. And others.
Your best argument against those who teach tithes (and standards) is they are perverting the gospel by works-righteousness. However even though that be the case I'm not so sure I'd say folks who teach tithing or standards are committing the same heresy as the Judaizers and condemn them to hell. I strongly disagree with Steve Epley and others on here. But really do I think they're going to hell? No, I would be surprised. Its possible, especially since Steve Epley condemns everyone. If he was judged by his own measure that'd be tough on him. But I believe the grace of God will keep those who trust in Him despite their ignorance and even arrogance.
As for Paul cleaning their clock, in one sense that's probably true for all Christian denominations and people. However I think you would do well to read Romans 14:9-14. Who are you to judge another's servant?
Brother, that passage is not about FALSE TEACHERS reprobating the church and driving a stumblingblock between the church and community, it is about a mans' "personal convictions". I believe I have been DEFENDING the truth in the same manner Paul or Peter would have....vigorously
Amen!
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