A Few Thoughts To Ponder - Page 5

Jacob's Ladder · #41 09-08-2014, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I thought the question was will we know anyone in Heaven? I replied Peter, James, John who had never seen Moses and Elijah knew them? To me that is very telling. Also it states David will sit on his throne. Evidently they will know he is David?
It also states we will sit down with Abraham, Issac, Jacob so evidently we will know them?
I realize we see through a glass darkly but these are just some observations.
I believe the scriptures teach the righteous dead are asleep in Jesus until the resurrection.

Steve,

So it's your interpretation of scripture that while the righteous are dead, they're not aware of anything nor are they in heaven?

votivesoul · #42 09-11-2014, 12:35 PM

The passage I keep coming back to is John 11, when the Lord raises Lazarus from the dead.

Mary tells the Lord that she believes Lazarus will raise to life on the last day, at the end. This suggests a belief in, for lack of a better term, soul sleep, in that Mary believes that Lazarus will only raise from the dead at the Resurrection prophesied to come.

But what does Jesus say to her?

I am the resurrection and the life...

Then He proceeds to raise Lazarus back to life millennia before the End.

This seems to indicate that the Lord may "quicken" whomsoever He will, just as He said, and can raise from the dead anyone at any time, whether in their mortal bodies, or in the soul, to be taken to heaven immediately.

I'm still not sold out yet, in either direction, but this is where I've been gravitating...

Abiding Now · #43 09-12-2014, 03:00 PM

In these verses it seems there were saints in heaven waiting for other saints to come to heaven.

Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.