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Old 09-29-2014, 09:06 AM
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Re: Question For One Step Apostolics

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Likewise I'd like to engage on this thought.

But just to clarify my reference to Romans 10 was anecdotal. I didn't change my view based on that. It really has to do with the whole NT as well as the fact that many people who have not spoken in tongues are just as faithful Christians as Apostolics, and some times more so.

I think we need to talk about the gospel of John, Romans, and the epistle of 1 John. I don't think oneness soteriology holds up to the teachings in those books.

As for me personally if there is a passage if scripture that was most influential in changing my mind it is not Romans 10:9-10. It is Romans 3:21-5:2.

So let's start there. How is that consistent with an OP 3 step soteriology?
I am going to use the Amplified for Romans 3:21-25 to begin.

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Romans 3:21 "But now the righteousness of God has been revealed independently and altogether apart from the Law, although actually it is attested by the Law and the Prophets,"
The Book of Romans has Paul using 51 references from the Septuagint, not being in conflict, but taking possession of these verses to show that they bear witness to the Gospel.

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Romans 3:22 "Namely, the righteousness of God which comes by believing with personal trust and confident reliance on Jesus Christ (the Messiah). [And it is meant] for all who believe. For there is no distinction,"
For all who believe? Paul references the who – “to the Jew first and also to the Greek/Gentile”.

What are they to believe? That the Messiah has come. That is not the end of their faith. It is only the beginning.

Notice Galatians 3:14:

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“That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.”
And notice Acts 2:33:

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“Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.”
Romans 8:9

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“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
Romans 8:11-12

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“But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”

Peter testifies in Acts 2:33 that what they see and what they hear is the Holy Ghost that was promised.

Romans 3:23-25

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"Since all have sinned and are falling short of the honor and glory which God bestows and receives. 24 [All] are justified and made upright and in right standing with God, freely and gratuitously by His grace (His unmerited favor and mercy), through the redemption which is [provided] in Christ Jesus, 25 Whom God put forward [[b]before the eyes of all] as a mercy seat and propitiation by His blood [the cleansing and life-giving sacrifice of atonement and reconciliation, to be received] through faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in His divine forbearance He had passed over and ignored former sins without punishment."
These verses of scripture in Romans 3:21-25 are simply saying that the Law and the Prophets bear witness to the gospel, that God’s grace is upheld and that Jesus Christ is Israel’s God, the God of Abraham.

It is about foundation – belief – to the Jew first and also the Greek.
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