Does your church still have "tarrying meetings"?

[Aquila]

I've been in prayer meetings wherein the group sits in silent prayer until someone responds to the moving of the Spirit. In house churches the gift of prophesy often manifests within the group as members begin to prophesy under the anointing of the Spirit. Sometimes a message in tongues with interpretation is given to the group, especially if an unresolved issue exists within the body.

[Abiding Now]

Acts 1 and 2, the 120 "tarried" because they were all waiting for the time designated by God for the outpouring of the Holy Ghost ("And when the day of Pentecost was FULLY come"). Since the initial outpouring of the Holy Ghost, no one HAS TO TARRY, because the promise of the Father has been fulfilled at Pentecost. Simply obey Acts 2:38.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Acts 1 and 2, the 120 "tarried" because they were all waiting for the time designated by God for the outpouring of the Holy Ghost ("And when the day of Pentecost was FULLY come"). Since the initial outpouring of the Holy Ghost, no one HAS TO TARRY, because the promise of the Father has been fulfilled at Pentecost. Simply obey Acts 2:38.

This is a common error people make nowadays.

The disciples were told to tarry (wait) in Jerusalem until... what? Until the Day of Pentecost? No. Until they received the Holy Ghost. They were told to wait in Jerusalem - don't go around preaching or anything - until they had been endued with power from on high, the power of the Holy Spirit.

They were waiting for the Promise. Waiting for the Power. Waiting for the outpouring of the Spirit to empower them to be witnesses into all the world. Their ministries were on hold UNTIL they had the power of God in them.

They were not told to wait until the 50th day after the waving of the omer of the first barley harvest (aka "Pentecost"). They had no idea the Spirit would visit them on THAT PARTICULAR DAY. They only knew to wait until the Spirit came.

So they waited. They weren't keeping time marking off the days, they were in prayer and supplication. For what? The power. The Spirit. They did not know WHEN it would happen. Only they had a promise from Jesus and they tarried in prayer until the promise was fulfilled in them personally and experientially.

Jesus had told them God wanted to give them the Spirit. He had told them the Father would give he Spirit to he disciples IF THEY ASKED HIM. And then taught them parables about the efficacy of persistent, importunate prayer IN THE CONTEXT OF ASKING FOR AND RECEIVING THE HOLY GHOST. Acting on His promise and obedient to his teaching they continued in prayer and supplication and did pretty much nothing except beseech God in faith and expectation.

And they received when God saw all things were in the right time and place, when it was most expedient and wise for the promise to be fulfilled.

Just because THEY received the Spirit gives nobody else the standing to presume that they have the Spirit. The Spirit is not something enjoyed on your behalf, nor is it something that you have access to JUST BECAUSE THEY DID. Each of us must come in faith. Each must receive for THEIR OWN SELF. And that means each must repent. Each must seek God. Each must ask. We come to Calvary as individuals and we must come to Pentecost likewise ... regardless if others come with us or if others are present.

I fear this charismatic "just open your mouth and speak it out and claim it as real by faith" approach is aborting untold numbers of would be children of God.

And I think the condition of the church today bears that out.

[Esaias]

And remember... I am not talking about "waiting" just to wait until some point in time, but rather to wait actively in prayer until the Promise becomes a reality.

[seguidordejesus]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

How do you know the Samaritans didn't tarry in Acts 8?

I think you'd have a harder time proving that they did.

[crakjak]

We have prayer meetings! Wednesday morning 6:00 AM, want to come?

[Aquila]

Anyone ever attend a Quaker gathering? Very peaceful, a lot of tarrying.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

This is a common error people make nowadays.

The disciples were told to tarry (wait) in Jerusalem until... what? Until the Day of Pentecost? No. Until they received the Holy Ghost. They were told to wait in Jerusalem - don't go around preaching or anything - until they had been endued with power from on high, the power of the Holy Spirit.

They were waiting for the Promise. Waiting for the Power. Waiting for the outpouring of the Spirit to empower them to be witnesses into all the world. Their ministries were on hold UNTIL they had the power of God in them.

They were not told to wait until the 50th day after the waving of the omer of the first barley harvest (aka "Pentecost"). They had no idea the Spirit would visit them on THAT PARTICULAR DAY. They only knew to wait until the Spirit came.

So they waited. They weren't keeping time marking off the days, they were in prayer and supplication. For what? The power. The Spirit. They did not know WHEN it would happen. Only they had a promise from Jesus and they tarried in prayer until the promise was fulfilled in them personally and experientially.

Jesus had told them God wanted to give them the Spirit. He had told them the Father would give he Spirit to he disciples IF THEY ASKED HIM. And then taught them parables about the efficacy of persistent, importunate prayer IN THE CONTEXT OF ASKING FOR AND RECEIVING THE HOLY GHOST. Acting on His promise and obedient to his teaching they continued in prayer and supplication and did pretty much nothing except beseech God in faith and expectation.

And they received when God saw all things were in the right time and place, when it was most expedient and wise for the promise to be fulfilled.

Just because THEY received the Spirit gives nobody else the standing to presume that they have the Spirit. The Spirit is not something enjoyed on your behalf, nor is it something that you have access to JUST BECAUSE THEY DID. Each of us must come in faith. Each must receive for THEIR OWN SELF. And that means each must repent. Each must seek God. Each must ask. We come to Calvary as individuals and we must come to Pentecost likewise ... regardless if others come with us or if others are present.

I fear this charismatic "just open your mouth and speak it out and claim it as real by faith" approach is aborting untold numbers of would be children of God.

And I think the condition of the church today bears that out.

This is really good Bro. I really am with you on it. I agree the false teaching of just open your mouth and start has had terrible results. And yet the old time Pentecostal approach that I have witnessed does not seem to be perfect either.

Many of these groups that teach that way have no more power than many Charismatics. Now I do believe in proper preparation to receive. The norm for all seekers is that they would forsake all and turn to Christ.

Repent and be baptized into the name of Jesus. And yes then CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD!

Whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. The context in Acts chapter 2 means they shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

No one should ever be told to just open their mouth and accept it by faith if they have not the right heart preparation.

And then there are those like in Acts 10. All they did was listen and believe. They really just believed and not even aware of what was happening they received. Much like my own experience. The Spirit manifested to me in tongues and prophecy while I was on break at work April 3 1974. I was definitely not seeking THAT experience.

I did not know that experience. I had never been in a Pentecostal Church in my life. But as to who receives the Holy Ghost one HUGE part of that puzzle IS NEVER ADDRESSED.

That is Acts 2:39. The promise is to you and your children and all that are afar off AS MANY AS THE LORD OUR GOD shall call!

No doubt many people have been brought to a Pentecostal altar and assured they will receive. No doubt many have stood in a Charismatic prayer circle and assured they will receive.

The bottom line is the Holy Spirit baptism is only for as many as the Lord our God shall call. No one else will receive whether in a Pentecostal or Charismatic setting.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

This is really good Bro. I really am with you on it. I agree the false teaching of just open your mouth and start has had terrible results. And yet the old time Pentecostal approach that I have witnessed does not seem to be perfect either.

Many of these groups that teach that way have no more power than many Charismatics. Now I do believe in proper preparation to receive. The norm for all seekers is that they would forsake all and turn to Christ.

Repent and be baptized into the name of Jesus. And yes then CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD!

Whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. The context in Acts chapter 2 means they shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

No one should ever be told to just open their mouth and accept it by faith if they have not the right heart preparation.

And then there are those like in Acts 10. All they did was listen and believe. They really just believed and not even aware of what was happening they received. Much like my own experience. The Spirit manifested to me in tongues and prophecy while I was on break at work April 3 1974. I was definitely not seeking THAT experience.

I did not know that experience. I had never been in a Pentecostal Church in my life. But as to who receives the Holy Ghost one HUGE part of that puzzle IS NEVER ADDRESSED.

That is Acts 2:39. The promise is to you and your children and all that are afar off AS MANY AS THE LORD OUR GOD shall call!

No doubt many people have been brought to a Pentecostal altar and assured they will receive. No doubt many have stood in a Charismatic prayer circle and assured they will receive.

The bottom line is the Holy Spirit baptism is only for as many as the Lord our God shall call. No one else will receive whether in a Pentecostal or Charismatic setting.

Peter told 3000 Jews "the Promise is unto you and to your children"... did he know each of them were called? Are we not called by the gospel? Thus if the gospel is proclaimed to someone, is it not evidence enough for them to assume God is calling them?

Of course... many are called but few are chosen. So even having the "Pentecostal baptism" is no guarantee of making it in the end. Too many people had a genuine experience but are now resting on the laurels of a past experience rathet than a present reality. And so the Pentecostal baptism becomes their Nehushtan.

And the conclusion to THAT analogy I'll leave unspoken.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

I think you'd have a harder time proving that they did.

I don't think so. The apostles and earliest disciples were told to "wait" to receive the Spirit. So there is precedence.

One would have to speculate as to how long they took seeking for the Spirit before they sent for the apostles.