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10-16-2014, 02:39 PM
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Re: Apostolics and Secular Music
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
How do you know they are lost? Would you be ok with it if you could hear the words? Do you consider whether a song honors Christ? What the words are actually saying? Does the volume bother you?
When I started attending my first Pentecostal Church in 1975 they used to mock non Pentecostals and talk how God likes it loud!
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Most (if not all) Christian Rock groups could not compete in the secular world so they turn their attention to "Christians" who think its okay.
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10-16-2014, 02:41 PM
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Re: Apostolics and Secular Music
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Originally Posted by obriencp
A few pages back it seemed like everybody was throwing stones at churches that make church fun, have modern music, and apparently are sending a bunch of young people to hell. Why can't we see what they're doing right and try to apply similar techniques? We're so "holier than thou" that we can't even appreciate the fact that large numbers of youth are at least getting exposed to Jesus. SMH.
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they are getting exposed to the world not the gospel.
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10-16-2014, 02:50 PM
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Re: Apostolics and Secular Music
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Most (if not all) Christian Rock groups could not compete in the secular world so they turn their attention to "Christians" who think its okay.
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Wow I see that you have not been around many of these people. Sure some of them as tares are just looking to move up into worldy rock. Have you not noticed the very same thing with Southern Gospel?
I went to work at a place years ago. As was my custom I began witnessing about Jesus. My most fierce opposition came from a truck driver who worked there.
The first few weeks he never let up taunting and ridiculing. Then lo and behold what did I find out about him?
HE WAS A SINGER IN A COUNTRY GOSPEL GROUP!
Does that mean I can NEVER enjoy a country gospel group again? Because I know there are false disciples among them?
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10-16-2014, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by n david
Michael - have you listened to United Pursuit? They have a few songs I like. They also have a free webcast every Tuesday you can watch at live.unitedpursuit.com. I watched some of it this past Tuesday and it was interesting. They were in the middle of a large room with people standing or in chairs all around the singers/musicians. I watched 30 or 45 minutes and they would just go from one song into another song and have periods of soft worship. I didn't recognize any of the songs, so I'm not sure if they were new songs, or if they were just ad-libbing.
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I was turned on to Will Reagan & United Pursuit. I love this album
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10-16-2014, 02:56 PM
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Re: Apostolics and Secular Music
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Wow I see that you have not been around many of these people. Sure some of them as tares are just looking to move up into worldy rock. Have you not noticed the very same thing with Southern Gospel?
I went to work at a place years ago. As was my custom I began witnessing about Jesus. My most fierce opposition came from a truck driver who worked there.
The first few weeks he never let up taunting and ridiculing. Then lo and behold what did I find out about him?
HE WAS A SINGER IN A COUNTRY GOSPEL GROUP!
Does that mean I can NEVER enjoy a country gospel group again? Because I know there are false disciples among them?
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in a word, YES you should never listen to false disciples, I don't listen to country gospel either.
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10-16-2014, 03:01 PM
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Re: Apostolics and Secular Music
mike if you wouldn't listen to a false prophet why should you listen to a false disciple?
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10-16-2014, 03:24 PM
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Re: Apostolics and Secular Music
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Hey I saw this on Youtube by United Pursuit. I had heard a few things by Will Reagen but did not know this was his band.
I noticed he wrote the MAGNIFICENT song called "Break Every Chain". I have heard some really good versions of it. Here is his, the original.
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Yeah, I love that song. There are a lot of videos from Will and UP on Youtube from there "Live at Fifth Ave" webcasts.
Most of the Will Reagan/UP music I've heard is pretty soft or acoustic.
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I was turned on to Will Reagan & United Pursuit. I love this album
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I haven't heard that album yet. Listening now on Spotify.
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10-16-2014, 03:33 PM
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Re: Apostolics and Secular Music
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Originally Posted by Miss Scarlett
My parents were raised on Good old Gospel Music, We were raised on some of the same good old Gospel Music, but the youth of today want the Hype of the Rock. My church didn't conform for us, our children, but for our grandchildren. Some think we need Rock and Roll music in order to reach them. Is this drawing our children closer to God, or conforming to the world?
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Most (if not all) Christian Rock groups could not compete in the secular world so they turn their attention to "Christians" who think its okay.
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
they are getting exposed to the world not the gospel.
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
in a word, YES you should never listen to false disciples, I don't listen to country gospel either.
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
mike if you wouldn't listen to a false prophet why should you listen to a false disciple?
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Amen, Amen and again I say Amen Bro. Eastman
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10-16-2014, 03:39 PM
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Re: Apostolics and Secular Music
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they are getting exposed to the world not the gospel.
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Wow. This is exactly what I was talking about.  If it is not 3 old ladies bangin tambourines singing, then it is secular music.
The Rock style is not "of the world". That is like saying white shoes are "of the world". You can't condemn a style just because it is popular with people not like you.
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10-16-2014, 04:13 PM
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Re: Apostolics and Secular Music
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Originally Posted by Esphes45
Wow. This is exactly what I was talking about.  If it is not 3 old ladies bangin tambourines singing, then it is secular music.
The Rock style is not "of the world". That is like saying white shoes are "of the world". You can't condemn a style just because it is popular with people not like you.
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I can condemn anything that wants to ACT like the world and not the church. come out from the world and leave the rock music while your add it!!!!!
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