It's Time To Draft Ted Cruz for President

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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Really? They do? Lets look at the stats.

http://knoema.com/UNODCHIS2013/2011-...s?tsId=1002880

That's half of the murder rate in Houston.

Where Cruz practiced law.

I don't click onto your links. The only thing I will say is that "murder" is a sin to any honest Christian. So, the murder rate in Houston is irrelevant to the discussion. Good attempt to sidetrack though.

And save yourself the trouble of bringing up tribal wars of the OT. It was survival of the fittest. It was either Israel as the survivor or another heathen people. I would prefer Israel to be the victor.

Jews don't engage in terrorist attacks? What kind of ignorant nonsense is that? You DO know that the Jewish state was founded on terrorism don't you?

The Jews attacked EVERYBODY, including the British, to form their state. What you and those like you need to do is come out and declare it is OK in some cases and not OK in other places based on race or religious beliefs.

Ever heard of Irgun? Here's their list of terrorist attacks.

Yes, I am familiar with Irgun. Are you familiar with the fact that the Jewish Agency condemned them for their acts?

I don't know any Muslim organization who has condemned Hamas or any other Muslim terrorist. I believe Greta VanSusteren just sent out a challenge to hear someone step up.

On a side note, it reminds me of the Mexicans that are still whining that the US "stole" their land. The want to overlook the facts of history - Santa Anna encouraged the Mexicans to go to Texas and other southern states. After they began to settle, he became a dictator to them and they fought and "won" their independence from his cruel hand.

Your list here doesn't show relevant facts. For one - GOD Almighty gave the land to the Hebrews. Israel belongs to the Jews. There were various tribes inhabiting the land before God instructed the Hebrews to conquer the land from the heathens who worshiped gods of their own making and would harm Israel thereby.

The age old argument or claim that Arab Palestinian rights to Arab Palestine is contradicted in history and has been pointed out by various historians and even Arabists that the land was named Palestina by the Romans in order to eradicate all traces of its Jewish history. Israel belongs to the Jews.

So, let's look at some of the facts concerning the Irgun:

• They were a military group that refused to bow to political pressure in their attempts to secure Israel.
• They were trying to protect the Israeli settlers from roaming Arabs who were causing havoc.
• The British began banning Jewish immigration and were not protecting the Jews.
  The Jewish Agency condemned them for their acts.

This makes your list irrelevant.

1937, March 2 Arabs killed on Bat Yam beach.
1937, November 14 10 Arabs killed by Irgun units launching attacks around Jerusalem, ("Black Sunday")
1938, April 12 2 Arabs and 2 British policemen were killed by a bomb in a train in Haifa.
1938, April 17 1 Arab was killed by a bomb detonated in a cafe in Haifa
1938, May 17 1 Arab policeman was killed in an attack on a bus in the Jerusalem-Hebron road.
1938, May 24 3 Arabs were shot and killed in Haifa.
1938, June 23 2 Arabs were killed near Tel Aviv.
1938, June 26 7 Arabs were killed by a bomb in Jaffa.
1938, June 27 1 Arab was killed in the yard of a hospital in Haifa.
1938, June (late) Unspecified number of Arabs killed by a bomb that was thrown into a crowded Arab market place in Jerusalem.
1938, July 5 7 Arabs were killed in several shooting attacks in Tel Aviv.
1938, July 5 3 Arabs were killed by a bomb detonated in a bus in Jerusalem.
1938, July 5 1 Arab was killed in another attack in Jerusalem.
1938, July 6 18 Arabs and 5 Jews were killed by two simultaneous bombs in the Arab melon market in Haifa. More than 60 people were wounded.
1938, July 8 4 Arabs were killed by a bomb in Jerusalem.
1938, July 16 10 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Jerusalem.
1938, July 25 43 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Haifa.
1938, August 26 24 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Jaffa.
1939, February 27 33 Arabs were killed in multiple attacks, incl. 24 by bomb in Arab market in Suk Quarter of Haifa and 4 by bomb in Arab vegetable market in Jerusalem.
1939, May 29 5 Arabs were killed by a mine detonated at the Rex cinema in Jerusalem.
1939, May 29 5 Arabs were shot and killed during a raid on the village of Biyar 'Adas.
1939, June 2 5 Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem.
1939, June 12 1 British bomb expert trying to defuse the bombs killed, during a post office in Jerusalem was bombing
1939, June 16 6 Arabs were killed in several attacks in Jerusalem.
1939, June 19 20 Arabs were killed by explosives mounted on a donkey at a marketplace in Haifa.
1939, June 29 13 Arabs were killed in several shooting attacks around Jaffa during a one-hour period.
1939, June 30 1 Arab was killed at a marketplace in Jerusalem.
1939, June 30 2 Arabs were shot and killed in Lifta.
1939, July 3 1 Arab was killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Haifa.
1939, July 4 2 Arabs were killed in two attacks in Jerusalem.
1939, July 20 1 Arab was killed at a train station in Jaffa.
1939, July 20 6 Arabs were killed in several attacks in Tel Aviv.
1939, July 20 3 Arabs were killed in Rehovot.
1939, August 27 2 British officers were killed by a mine in Jerusalem.
1944, September 27 Unknown number of casualties, around 150 Irgun members attacked four British police stations
1944, September 29 1 Senior British police officer of the Criminal Intelligence Department assassinated in Jerusalem.
1945, November 1 5 locomotives destroyed in Lydda station. Two staff, one soldier and one policeman killed.
1945, December 27 3 British policemen and 4 Sotho soldiers killed during the bombing of British CID headquarters in Jerusalem; 1 British soldier killed during attack of British army camp in north Tel Aviv
1946, February 22 Destroyed 14 aeroplanes at 5 RAF stations.
1946, July 22 91 people were killed at King David Hotel bombing mostly civilians, staff of the hotel or Secretariat,
41 Arabs, 15-28 British citizens, 17 Palestinian Jews, 2 Armenians, 1 Russian, 1 Greek and 1 Egyptian.
1946, October 30 2 British guards killed during Gunfire and explosion at Jerusalem Railway Station.
1946, October 31 Bombing of the British Embassy in Rome. Nearly half the building was destroyed and 3 people were injured.
1947, January 12 4 killed in bombing of British headquarters.
1947, March 1 17 British officers killed, during raid and explosion.
1947, March 12 1 British soldier killed during the attack on Schneller Camp.
1947, July 19 4 locations within Haifa are attacked, killing a British constable and injuring 12.
1947, July 29 2 kidnapped British sergeants hanged.
1947, September 26 4 British policemen killed in Irgun bank robbery.
1947, September 29 13 killed, 53 wounded in attack on British police station.
1947, December 11 13 killed in attack on Tireh, near Haifa
1947, December 12 20 killed, 5 wounded by barrel bomb at Damascus Gate.
1947, December 13 6 killed, 25 wounded by bombs outside Alhambra Cinema.
1947, December 13 5 killed, 47 wounded by two bombs at Damascus Gate.
1947, December 13 7 killed, 10 seriously injured in attack on al-'Abbasiyya.
1947, December 16(ca) 10 killed by bomb at Noga Cinema in Jaffa.
1947, December 29 14 Arabs killed by bomb in Jerusalem.
1947, December 30 6 Arabs killed and, 42 injured by grenades at Haifa refinery, precipitating the Haifa Oil Refinery massacre, which lead to the Balad al-Shaykh massacre.
1948, January 1 2 Arabs killed and 9 injured by shooting attack on cafe in Jaffa.
1948, January 5 14 Arabs killed and 19 injured by truck bomb outside the 3-storey 'Serrani', Jaffa's built Ottoman Town Hall
1948, January 7 20 Arabs killed by bomb at Jaffa Gate.
1948, February 10 7 Arabs killed near Ras el Ain after selling cows in Tel Aviv
1948, February 18 12 Arabs killed and 43 wounded at a marketplace in Ramla
1948, March 1 20 Britons killed and 30 wounded in the Bevingrad Officers Club bombing
1948, April 9-April 11 107-120 Arabs killed and massacred (the estimate generally accepted by scholars, instead the first announced number of 254) during and after the battle at the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, by 132 Irgun and 60 Lehi fighters.
1948, April 6 7 British soldiers, including Commanding Officer, killed during an arms raid on Pardes Hanna Army camp.

"Convert or die" is a Christian invention, not a Muslim invention.

From The Crusades, by Bernard Hamilton:1

“In 1309 the Teutonic Order moved its headquarters to Marienburg in Prussia. It had a papal license to wage perpetual war against the pagans and used this to launch annual crusades against Lithuania. These expeditions were very popular the nobility of northern Europe: campaigns were held twice a year, in the summer and in the winter when the order laid on special Christmas festivities for visiting crusaders.”

“The excuse for men who enjoyed fighting and to lay waste large parts of Lithuania in the name of Christ was removed in 1386 when the King of Lithuania, Ladislas Jagiello, married Queen Jadwiga of Poland and received Catholic baptism. The two kingdoms were united under Christian rulers and the Teutonic Knights no longer had any justification for crusading against pagans there.”

Lithuania was not the first country that fell victim to a campaign of lethal military force, for the purpose of forced conversion to Christianity. Three entire European nationalities became victims of genocide because they refused to become Christians:

“...the Vandals, Ostogoths, and Heruli. The last three were destroyed by the Pope of Rome because they refused to become ‘Christian.’ The armies of Emperor Justinian, in cooperation with the Pope, thrust the Ostrogoths out of the city of Rome. They have become extinct.”2

Jews had to endure the sword too. Millions of Jews from the fourth century CE until the 20th Century were forced to “kiss the sword” of Christ, or be put to death by that sword. Therefore, many, many Jews died at the hands of Christians in the name of Jesus. Fortunately, many Jews managed to survive. They survived by lying―they converted, but secretly remained Jews. The Christian Church finally realized what was happening and in 1492, the Spanish Inquisition tried to purge the country of these “Secret” Jews, called Marranos.

Islamic Law does not "force" conversions at the cost of life.

I am wondering if you are aware that the Catholic Church preaches false doctrine - therefore - their acts will be judged by God in that last day. A Christian is a follower of Christ's doctrine. The Catholic Church does not teach that doctrine.

Although they had a reformation take place, they are still not of the Apostle's doctrine. They preach nothing that Peter preached on the Day of Pentecost. There is no other truth in this world.

You may want to look a little more educated when you judge "Christianity" and the "Crusades" by the Catholic Church. It would be a good idea to realize that about the Catholic Church and to also note that they were the ones in 325 AD who started the meme of the Jews being "Christ killers". They were the ones that began the Antisemitism fight - a priest testifying to that very fact after he researched the history of Catholicism and left the Catholic Church.

You see, the facts make your comments irrelevant.

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Let’s look at the “myth” of moderate Islam. While the Jewish Agency condemned the acts of the Irgun, we don’t see any muslim organizations doing the same.

Let’s focus on their inherent beliefs more than focusing on whether or not they are violent:


According to a 2011 Pew Research poll:
1.6 Billion Muslims live in this world - in 49 different countries there they have the majority


Asia - 205 Million Muslims
Indonesia and a lot of other countries - 50% support strict Sharia Law
70% - Blame the US or Israel for 911
Total: 143 radicalized Muslims

Egypt: 80 million Muslims
65% support strict Sharia law
70% positive or mixed feelings about Ben Laden
Total: 55.2 Million radicalized Muslims

Pakistan - 179 Million Muslims
76% support strict Sharia law in ALL Islamic countries
Total: 135.4 Million radicalized Muslims

Bangladesh - 149 Million Muslims
2013 Pew Research - 1/4 believe suicide bombings sometimes justified
82% want Sharia law as official law of the country
2/3 support honor killings of women as sometimes justified
Total: 121.9 Million radicalized Muslims

Nigeria - 75.7 Million Muslims
71% favor Sharia Law
Total: 53:7 Million radicalized Muslims

Iran - 74.8 Million Muslims
83% favor Sharia as of 2013
Total: 62.1 Million radicalized Muslims

Turkey - 74.7 Million Muslims (the most moderate Muslim country and ally of the US)
32% support honor killings of women as sometimes justified.
Total: 23.9 million radicalized Muslims

Morocco - 32.4 Million Muslims
3/4 support Sharia Law
Total: 24.6 Million radicalized Muslims

Iraq - 31.1 Million Muslims
78% support honor killings of women
Total: 24.3 Million radicalized Muslims

Afghanistan - 24 Million Muslims
76% support honor killing of women
99% support Sharia law
Total: 24 Million radicalized Muslims

Jordan - 6.4 Million Muslims
60% approval ratings for Hamas
Total: 3.8 Million radicalized Muslims

Palestinian Areas - 4.3 Million Muslims
78% positive or mixed feelings about Bin Laden
89% support terror attacks against Israel
89% support Sharia Law
Total: 3.83 Million radicalized Muslims

France - 4/7 Million Muslims
2007 - 35% favored suicide bombings as justified
Total: 1.6 Million radicalized Muslims

Great Britain - 2.8 Million Muslims
78% wanted prosecution of Mohammad cartoonist
Total: 2.2 Million radicalized Muslims

United States - 2.6 "Moderate" Muslims
13% support violence against civilians as justified
19% favorable to Al Qaeda
Total: 500,000 radicalized Muslims

Grand Total: 680,030,000 radicalized Muslims

942.4 Million Total Muslims - leaving off the totals for Algeria, Syria, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Tunisia, Somalia and Libya.

What is the logical conclusion? That the totals are NOT a "minority", they are a "MAJORITY"! - "MODERATE IS A MYTH"!!!!

[Aquila]

I believe that the "prophecies" of the coming Al-Mahdi (Guided One) in radical Islam are interesting:

The Mahdi will be a leader who has the ability to speak boldly.

“He will be so powerful that if he… shouts among the mountains, hard rocks will turn into powder…”. (Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 52, p. 32; Al-Hurr al-Amili, Ithbat al-Hudat, Vol. 6, p. 19)

The ‘Muslim Jesus’ (not to be confused with the Christian Jesus) will return to help the Mahdi get accepted by the world.

“ The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 43: Kitab-ul-`Ilm (Book of Knowledge), Hâdith Number 656)

The Mahdi will also have a powerful army that will do damage on the earth. Ultimately causing all to follow him.

“Mahdi will receive a pledge of allegiance as a caliph for Muslims. He will lead Muslims in many battles of jihad. ” Abdulrahman Kelani, The Last Apocalypse, An Islamic Perspective, (Fustat, 2003), pp. 34-35

“If you see him, go and give him your allegiance…” Ibn Maja, Kitab al-Fitan #4084 as quoted by Kabbani, p. 231

The Mahdi will be a world leader and rule for seven years.

“The Mahdi… will fill the earth with equity and justice as it was filled with oppression and tyranny, and he will rule for seven years.” Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 36, Number 4272, Narrated by Abu Sa’id al-Khudri

“Fight against the forces of evil, lead a world revolution and set up a new world order…” Ayatullah Baqir al-Sadr and Ayatullah Muratda Mutahhari, The Awaited Savior, (Karachi, Islamic Seminary Publications), prologue, pp. 4

The Mahdi will more than likely adopt the Islamic calendar thus changing the times. In addition he will promote Shariah law changing the laws.

“He…will govern the people by the Sunnah of their prophet and establish Islam on the earth.” (unan Abu Dawud, Book 36, Number 4273, Narrated Umm Salamah, Ummul Mu’minin)

The Mahdi comes riding on a white horse.

“It is clear that this man is the Mahdi who will ride the white horse and judge by the Qur’an (with justice) and with whom will be men with marks of prostration (zabiba) on their foreheads.” ‘Izzat and ‘Arif
The Mahdi will make Islam the only acceptable religion.

“He…will govern the people by the Sunnah of their prophet and establish Islam on the earth.” (unan Abu Dawud, Book 36, Number 4273, Narrated Umm Salamah, Ummul Mu’minin)

The Mahdi will execute infidels, anyone who does not believe in Islam, through beheading.

“I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off.” Surah 8.12

“Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), strike off their heads…” Surah 47:4

The Mahdi will kill anyone who opposes Islam. He will kill the Jews and the Christians.

“Muslims take neither Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their numbers. Allah does not guide wrongdoing.” Surah 5.51

“Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush for them.” Surah 9.73

The Mahdi will conquer Jerusalem.

“Jerusalem will be the location of the rightly guided caliphate and the center of Islamic rule, which will be headed by Imam al-Mahdi.” (Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6985)

The Mahdi performs many signs, wonders, and miracles.

“In the last days of my Ummah [universal Islamic community], the Mahdi will appear. Allah will give him power over the wind and the rain and the earth will bring forth its foliage. He will give away wealth profusely, flocks will be in abundance, and the Ummah will be large and honored…” (Sahih Hakim Mustadrak, related by Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (4:557 and 558), as quoted by Kabbani p. 233)

Followers of the Mahdi usually mark themselves with headbands on the foreheads.

Muslims receive ‘bismillah’ (in the name of allah), unbelievers receive ‘bismilkafir’ (in the name of unbelievers)

[Aquila]

Islam has a tax (Jizya) that is paid by non-Muslims so that their lives will be spared during Islamic conquest. Historically, those non-Muslims who have sworn to pay the Jizya have been tattooed (or marked) so that Islamic authorities know who they are. Tattoos were first used in this manner by Muawiya and revived by the Ottomans. Today some Ethiopian Falasha women and Egyptian Copts still wear Jizya-tattoos, now recast as marks of honor on the wrist as well as still on the forehead. Ironically, Muawiya declared himself as Caliph in AD 666. Any revival of this practice would commemorate said date. Coincidence?

Isn't it interesting how the Islamic "Al-Mahdi" sounds like the Christian "Antichrist"???

Also, the Bible also describes some of the lands the Beast will lead (Dan 11:42, Ezek 38):

o Egypt, which he will attack and subdue (Dan 11:42).
o Meschek and Tubal (most likely parts of Turkey, parts of Southern Russia, parts of Iran),
o Magog (a region convering parts of either Syria and/or former Soviet Republics of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Turkey, Iran, Dagestan),
o Persia (Modern Iran)
o Cush (African Cush covers parts of Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia. Asian Cush covers Arabia through Euphrates),
o Put (Libya),
o Gomer (Cappadocia, Turkey),
o Togarmah (southeastern part of Turkey near Syria)
o Babylon (Modern Iraq. The Euphrates River in Iraq is also mentioned together with the two Beasts in Rev 16:12-13),

Basically, this is the region spanning N. Africa, Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Central Asian Islamic Republics (the various -stans). All are MUSLIM dominated nations. Al-Mahdi and Isa (Muslim version of Jesus) are supposed to usher an era of peace through Islam. However, after the Jews betray the covenant, those who refuse to accept Islam will perish (Isa will "kill the swine, break the Cross, and abolish the Jizya tax") ... so Isa will accept nothing except Islam from the Christians. This means those who refuse to follow al-Mahdi and Isa will be faced with death. The hadiths say that the al-Mahdi will enter into the al-Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount and re-establish the Caliphate. Muslims believe that Jerusalem will be the center and headquarters of the future Islamic Caliphate (ISIL/ISIS is desperately trying to form this Caliphate as we speak). For example, the head of the northern faction of the Islamic Movement Sheikh Raed Salah addressed an audience of 50,000 in September 2006 that "…soon Jerusalem will be the capital of the new Muslim caliphate, and the caliph's seat will be there." (Ynet News article) Imam Ahmad, Al-Hakim and Abu Dawud quoted 'Abdullah Ibn Zughb Al- Ibadi who heard from 'Abdullah Ibn Hawwala Al- Azdi that: "The Prophet put his hand on my head, and then said: 'Ibn Hawwala, if you see that the Caliphate has taken its abode in the holy land, then the earthquake, the tribulations and great events are at hand, and the Last Hour on that day will be closer to people than my hand is to your head." (Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Musnad. also Abu Dawud). Ibn Sa'd quoted 'Abd Al-Rahman Ibn Abi 'Umayra al-Mazni, "There will be an oath of allegiance according to guidance in Jerusalem." (ibn Hanbal, Musnad)

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Just a reminder. This thread isn't about Islam. It is about Senator Ted Cruz.

USA Today article by Senator Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz: Republican priorities for 2015

A GOP led Congress in 2015 will pass a serious agenda, or expose an obstructionist Obama.

Here are ten critical priorities for the 2015 Congress:

Read full text here:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinio...lumn/17267261/

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

You still here?

I was hoping you were somewhere in Iraq or Syria catching some American bombs.
If you go make sure to take a nice big baseball glove so you can catch them.

We live in Saudi.

When I was a kid I used to make rocket fuel for the Air Force. Among other things. My gifts were delivered for years. Looking back I don't feel proud.

You do know that giggling about people "catching your bombs" is no different from what ISIL does around their campfires.

Which pretty much makes the two of you the same. Nice company you keep. Hopefully you will look back at things like that and not feel proud either.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I don't click onto your links. The only thing I will say is that "murder" is a sin to any honest Christian. So, the murder rate in Houston is irrelevant to the discussion. Good attempt to sidetrack though.

And save yourself the trouble of bringing up tribal wars of the OT. It was survival of the fittest. It was either Israel as the survivor or another heathen people. I would prefer Israel to be the victor.


Yes, I am familiar with Irgun. Are you familiar with the fact that the Jewish Agency condemned them for their acts?

I don't know any Muslim organization who has condemned Hamas or any other Muslim terrorist. I believe Greta VanSusteren just sent out a challenge to hear someone step up.

On a side note, it reminds me of the Mexicans that are still whining that the US "stole" their land. The want to overlook the facts of history - Santa Anna encouraged the Mexicans to go to Texas and other southern states. After they began to settle, he became a dictator to them and they fought and "won" their independence from his cruel hand.

Your list here doesn't show relevant facts. For one - GOD Almighty gave the land to the Hebrews. Israel belongs to the Jews. There were various tribes inhabiting the land before God instructed the Hebrews to conquer the land from the heathens who worshiped gods of their own making and would harm Israel thereby.

The age old argument or claim that Arab Palestinian rights to Arab Palestine is contradicted in history and has been pointed out by various historians and even Arabists that the land was named Palestina by the Romans in order to eradicate all traces of its Jewish history. Israel belongs to the Jews.

So, let's look at some of the facts concerning the Irgun:

• They were a military group that refused to bow to political pressure in their attempts to secure Israel.
• They were trying to protect the Israeli settlers from roaming Arabs who were causing havoc.
• The British began banning Jewish immigration and were not protecting the Jews.
  The Jewish Agency condemned them for their acts.

This makes your list irrelevant.







I am wondering if you are aware that the Catholic Church preaches false doctrine - therefore - their acts will be judged by God in that last day. A Christian is a follower of Christ's doctrine. The Catholic Church does not teach that doctrine.

Although they had a reformation take place, they are still not of the Apostle's doctrine. They preach nothing that Peter preached on the Day of Pentecost. There is no other truth in this world.

You may want to look a little more educated when you judge "Christianity" and the "Crusades" by the Catholic Church. It would be a good idea to realize that about the Catholic Church and to also note that they were the ones in 325 AD who started the meme of the Jews being "Christ killers". They were the ones that began the Antisemitism fight - a priest testifying to that very fact after he researched the history of Catholicism and left the Catholic Church.

You see, the facts make your comments irrelevant.

Your answer, randomly picked from thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of possibilities

Margaret Ward was condemned to die for assisting a priest to escape from Bridewell. She was offered her liberty if she would go to the Protestant church, and on refusing these terms, was hanged at Tyburn. Mrs. Line was tried for her life before Chief-Justice Popham for entertaining a priest in her house, and was flogged and then hanged. Mrs. Wells, for the same cause, received sentence of death, but died in prison. Anne Tesse and Bridget Maskew were condemned to be burnt alive, but after lingering for several years in gaol, were set at liberty by James I. More famous, however, than any of these is the name of Margaret Margaret Clitherow, of whose charity, good works, and heroic death we fortunately possess a full contemporary account, drawn up by her director, the Rev. John Mush. Her history is but briefly told in the Memoirs of Bishop Challoner, who simply says she refused to plead, and was ‘pressed’ to death according to law.

It was already pointed out that you do and will excuse terrorist acts depending on religion, skin color or background, no big surprise on your answer. I can see that Irgun was condemned. Look what happened to their leadership. OOPS.


Menachem Begin Hebrew: מְנַחֵם בֵּגִין; Polish: Mieczysław Biegun; Russian: Менахем Вольфович Бегин Menakhem Vol'fovich Begin; 16 August 1913 – 9 March 1992) was an Israeli politician, founder of Likud and the sixth Prime Minister of the State of Israel. Before the creation of the state of Israel, he was the leader of the Zionist militant group Irgun, the Revisionist breakaway from the larger Jewish paramilitary organization Haganah. He proclaimed a revolt, on 1 February 1944, against the British mandatory government, which was opposed by the Jewish Agency. As head of the Irgun, he targeted the British in Palestine.

He was a terrorist and he participated in targeting random civilians all over the region. Condemned? Not a chance. He became prime minister.

I reiterate that the state of Israel was founded on and by terrorism and terrorists and that you, and Ted Cruz, support this.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I don't click onto your links.

That's for sure. We are different like that. In this example you would not dare put UN statistics beside your claims. That would incur allowing facts to stand in the way of your statements.

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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

That's for sure. We are different like that. In this example you would not dare put UN statistics beside your claims. That would incur allowing facts to stand in the way of your statements.

Yes, I can see how you would have confidence in any stats coming from the Anti-semitic UN. The reason that I don't click on your links is because I don't know you, and many of your links I don't recognize.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Your answer, randomly picked from thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of possibilities

Margaret Ward was condemned to die for assisting a priest to escape from Bridewell. She was offered her liberty if she would go to the Protestant church, and on refusing these terms, was hanged at Tyburn. Mrs. Line was tried for her life before Chief-Justice Popham for entertaining a priest in her house, and was flogged and then hanged. Mrs. Wells, for the same cause, received sentence of death, but died in prison. Anne Tesse and Bridget Maskew were condemned to be burnt alive, but after lingering for several years in gaol, were set at liberty by James I. More famous, however, than any of these is the name of Margaret Margaret Clitherow, of whose charity, good works, and heroic death we fortunately possess a full contemporary account, drawn up by her director, the Rev. John Mush. Her history is but briefly told in the Memoirs of Bishop Challoner, who simply says she refused to plead, and was ‘pressed’ to death according to law.

It is good to see how brave Margaret Ward was against the strong arm of the Catholic Jesuits, but the newly formed Protestant Church was still not the Apostles Doctrine. You can focus all day long on past history and the time of the "crusades", but it is still Catholicism, which God wouldn't recognize as truth. I don't judge true Christianity by it. Especially, during that time period.

It was already pointed out that you do and will excuse terrorist acts depending on religion, skin color or background, no big surprise on your answer. I can see that Irgun was condemned. Look what happened to their leadership. OOPS.


Menachem Begin Hebrew: מְנַחֵם בֵּגִין; Polish: Mieczysław Biegun; Russian: Менахем Вольфович Бегин Menakhem Vol'fovich Begin; 16 August 1913 – 9 March 1992) was an Israeli politician, founder of Likud and the sixth Prime Minister of the State of Israel. Before the creation of the state of Israel, he was the leader of the Zionist militant group Irgun, the Revisionist breakaway from the larger Jewish paramilitary organization Haganah. He proclaimed a revolt, on 1 February 1944, against the British mandatory government, which was opposed by the Jewish Agency. As head of the Irgun, he targeted the British in Palestine.

He was a terrorist and he participated in targeting random civilians all over the region. Condemned? Not a chance. He became prime minister.

I reiterate that the state of Israel was founded on and by terrorism and terrorists and that you, and Ted Cruz, support this.

You can continue to falsely call Israel "Palestine"... AGAIN:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

The age old argument or claim that Arab Palestinian rights to Arab Palestine is contradicted in history and has been pointed out by various historians and even Arabists that the land was named Palestina by the Romans in order to eradicate all traces of its Jewish history. Israel belongs to the Jews.