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10-24-2014, 08:35 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
Col 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
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10-24-2014, 08:39 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Luke 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
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10-24-2014, 08:41 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
Jesus, because he was a real man, did not claim to be good, he said that there is NONE good, but God
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10-24-2014, 08:42 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
How did the Apostles view Jesus when they heard him say this?
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10-24-2014, 08:44 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
A side note, the next time somebody calls you good, say what Jesus said...lOL
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10-24-2014, 08:46 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
Well, I believe in ONENESS per se... but there are some things that aren't completely clear to me.
For example.... how do you explain this verse? (there obviously is shown to be a difference between God, and Jesus).
Romans 8:17 "And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may also be glorified together."
So, how is it that we are heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Jesus? This would suggest a distinct difference between God and Jesus.
We must be very careful when we depict the humanity of Jesus, because many people take this to mean that we are co-equal with Jesus, and I think this is where the Mormons took their spin-off. They believe they can become equals with Jesus, and can become like him, like gods themselves.
Just one of the questions about the "oneness" that I've not understood, although I do believe that there is only one God and that in Jesus was manifested the spirit of the Father. It is just that sometimes the descriptions written by Paul about the godhead conjure up other things.
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10-24-2014, 08:48 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
Sean please tell us in what way Jesus was not good?
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10-24-2014, 08:49 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
Although the man, Jesus Christ (the Son of God), distinct from the Father... He is not separate from the Father. They are one.
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10-24-2014, 08:51 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Originally Posted by Sean
Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Luke 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
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Jesus is stating that, if He is good, as the one speaking to Him attested that He was, He must be understood to be God. It's like if the man said, "Divine teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?", and Jesus said, "Why do you call me divine? There is none divine but one, that is, God." In other words, Jesus is saying, "If I'm what you're saying I am, you must know who I am."
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10-24-2014, 08:52 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Sean please tell us in what way Jesus was not good?
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Jesus said it himself, please tell me how I did not read the 2 passages properly. I am sincere here.
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