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11-03-2014, 01:38 AM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
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Hebrews 9:26 KJV
For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
How does him putting away or sin come into play? Side note: says he came at the end if the world.
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When a person repents and believes his sacrifice as the lamb of God comes into play. They enter Covenant with him. He is their high priest and mediator.
Apostle John shows how it works generally speaking.
1My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1 John 2:1
We confess he forgives.
AND YET something else from the book of Hebrews is ALSO in play.
26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb. 10:26-27
So while the sacrifice of Christ perfects forever them who are sanctified, for those who despise the grace of God and continue sinning it is no more of effect.
This is why the Lord and Savior gives such strict warnings to the believers in Sardis that had defiled their garments. He was giving them a chance to repent and make their works perfect or......he says he will blot them out of the book of life.
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11-03-2014, 05:21 AM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
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When a person repents and believes his sacrifice as the lamb of God comes into play. They enter Covenant with him. He is their high priest and mediator.
Apostle John shows how it works generally speaking.
1My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1 John 2:1
We confess he forgives.
AND YET something else from the book of Hebrews is ALSO in play.
26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb. 10:26-27
So while the sacrifice of Christ perfects forever them who are sanctified, for those who despise the grace of God and continue sinning it is no more of effect.
This is why the Lord and Savior gives such strict warnings to the believers in Sardis that had defiled their garments. He was giving them a chance to repent and make their works perfect or......he says he will blot them out of the book of life.
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Hebrews 10 is about leaving Christ and drawing back to law losing salvation and suffering the coming destruction.
Why would writer say he put away sin? What did that mean?
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Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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11-03-2014, 05:32 AM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
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Hebrews 10 is about leaving Christ and drawing back to law losing salvation and suffering the coming destruction.
Why would writer say he put away sin? What did that mean?
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Hebrews 10 is applicable for any Messianic believer. I already showed you how Yeshua put away sin. He forgives it. Its simple enough.
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11-03-2014, 05:53 AM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
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Hebrews 10 is applicable for any Messianic believer. I already showed you how Yeshua put away sin. He forgives it. Its simple enough.
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It says he put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. Yes. Hebrews ten is applicable, if one leaves the faith they leave the righteousness of Christ to go back to being a sinner.
Colossians 1:20-23 KJV
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
Reconciled, blameless, holy "if you continue in the faith"
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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11-03-2014, 05:39 AM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
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Hebrews 10 is about leaving Christ and drawing back to law losing salvation and suffering the coming destruction.
Why would writer say he put away sin? What did that mean?
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So maybe the part about him putting away sin is ALSO just for the Jews who lived back then?
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11-03-2014, 05:56 AM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
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So maybe the part about him putting away sin is ALSO just for the Jews who lived back then?
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Read the whole chapter to see the point.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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11-02-2014, 09:59 PM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
So you believe you get saved and unsaved over and over? Let's say you mistreat a cashier bad and while driving home you realize it then repent but it took 1 hour. Would you be lost in the hour before the spot was removed?
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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11-02-2014, 10:20 PM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
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So you believe you get saved and unsaved over and over? Let's say you mistreat a cashier bad and while driving home you realize it then repent but it took 1 hour. Would you be lost in the hour before the spot was removed?
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TS,
Dont assume it is I who came up with the thought about our works being perfect. Or about our garments getting defiled. Or about blotting someone out because they are not overcoming.
It is Christ Jesus who set these things in order in his Kingdom. The idea he tries to get across is to be an OVERCOMER . Any time we have sin in our life we should be afraid.
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11-03-2014, 06:48 AM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
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So you believe you get saved and unsaved over and over? Let's say you mistreat a cashier bad and while driving home you realize it then repent but it took 1 hour. Would you be lost in the hour before the spot was removed?
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You really didn't answer this post.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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11-02-2014, 10:29 PM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
What did the apostles of Christ Jesus teach about getting spots on our garments? Remember our garment is speaking spiritually about our life.
Paul:
27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. Ephesians 5:27
Peter:
14Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 2 Peter 3:14
James:
27Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. James 1:27
Jude:
22And of some have compassion, making a difference: 23And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. Jude 1:22
It seems they all understood this. If are garments are defiled we are seriously at risk in our fellowship with the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
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