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11-03-2014, 08:28 AM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
I'd say that if it took you an hour to repent, you might still be lost :Lola
This seems to encourage an extremely literal view of 'lost' and 'saved' to me.
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11-03-2014, 04:49 PM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
Hebrews 10:14 KJV
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
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11-03-2014, 06:37 PM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Hebrews 10:14 KJV
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
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When a person repents and believes his sacrifice as the lamb of God comes into play. They enter Covenant with him. He is their high priest and mediator.
Apostle John shows how it works generally speaking.
1My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1 John 2:1
We confess he forgives.
AND YET something else from the book of Hebrews is ALSO in play.
26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb. 10:26-27
So while the sacrifice of Christ perfects forever them who are sanctified, for those who despise the grace of God and continue sinning it is no more of effect.
29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Heb. 10:29-31
This is why the Lord and Savior gives such strict warnings to the believers in Sardis that had defiled their garments. He was giving them a chance to repent and make their works perfect or......he says he will blot them out of the book of life.
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11-04-2014, 09:01 AM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
When we stand before God every thought, word, deed, and intent will be judged as to if it demonstrates a love for God and a love for others.
If we walk in the Spirit, bearing the fruit of love, we will be found to be "perfect" in Christ Jesus, His perfection being our own.
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11-04-2014, 05:11 PM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
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When we stand before God every thought, word, deed, and intent will be judged as to if it demonstrates a love for God and a love for others.
If we walk in the Spirit, bearing the fruit of love, we will be found to be "perfect" in Christ Jesus, His perfection being our own.
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This is true and very good.
Here is another good perspective.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Rev.22:14
If we keep the commandments of Christ (out of a pure heart of course) we shall enter into the gates of that city.
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11-04-2014, 08:48 PM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
This is true and very good.
Here is another good perspective.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Rev.22:14
If we keep the commandments of Christ (out of a pure heart of course) we shall enter into the gates of that city.
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I believe His commandments are:
1. Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength.
2. Love your neighbor as your self. As Paul wrote, love fulfills the Law ( Romans 13:8-10).
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11-05-2014, 05:56 AM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
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I believe His commandments are:
1. Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength.
2. Love your neighbor as your self. As Paul wrote, love fulfills the Law ( Romans 13:8-10).
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There are commandments on practically every page of the New Testament writings. They can be SUMMED UP by comprehending love, nevertheless there are many things commanded by Christ. The way you prove you love the Lord your God with all your heart is by doing his word/will.
If one desires eternal life let them know it is only given to those who DO THE WILL OF GOD.
17And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. 1 John 2:17
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11-05-2014, 09:59 AM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
There are commandments on practically every page of the New Testament writings. They can be SUMMED UP by comprehending love, nevertheless there are many things commanded by Christ. The way you prove you love the Lord your God with all your heart is by doing his word/will.
If one desires eternal life let them know it is only given to those who DO THE WILL OF GOD.
17And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. 1 John 2:17
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I see many teachings, admonishments, and a few commandments. However, their substance is love for God, spouse, brethren, and others. Most who draft out "commandments" all disagree on what they are, how many there are, and often the essence off the commandment. So, I have concluded from Paul ( Romans 13:8-10; Galatians 5:14) that the Christian life is actually very simple and spiritual. We are to love God with all our being. And demonstrate that love by loving others as our selves.
We are perfected in love. The greater our love, the greater our perfection. For the more our love, the more we are like God. For God is love.
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11-04-2014, 09:41 AM
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IMO, many Christians have an identity issue.
Should we continue in sin because we have grace?
GOD FORBID!
How can one dead to sin continue in sin?
We're told that someday we will have the victory. Keep praying. Keep pressing. It's just around the corner. Years pass, we're almost there.
No, no, no, no!!! We're dead to sin when we're saved. It's not something worked out over time.
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11-04-2014, 11:21 AM
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Re: The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged
I am living an overcoming life in which no present, active, or appearance of sin exists.
I believe in sinless perfection. I believe the law of sin will be present until glorification, but that law of sin need not reign in our mortal bodies. It can be crushed by repentance from dead works and faith toward God, building ourselves up in our most holy faith by praying in the Spirit, hating the garment stained by the flesh, etc.
A few weeks ago at a home fellowship, as I spoke to those present regarding sanctification. I assured them that as they progressed in their walk with God, that they CAN, through the Blood of the Atonement, get to a place where they begin to "sin less" until they reach a point of being "sinless".
Jaws dropped and revelation kicked in!
I was told by two people "No one has ever said that to me before".
God changed their minds and hearts toward how to live for Him that very moment.
It was beautiful.
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