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11-07-2014, 10:40 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
For clarification: I'm not arguing for the specifics of this situation and saying that the pastor's son should or shouldn't marry the woman who has been *named* on this thread. I'm just saying that on PRINCIPLE, it isn't our business, and her past pre-Christ shouldn't matter to us.
I find it particularly repugnant that the thread title framed her by her past instead of her present.
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11-07-2014, 10:52 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
Now I know what goes on in ministers meetings
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11-07-2014, 11:36 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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Originally Posted by Dante
David Bassette isn't the first minister to marry someone with a sordid past.
Rev. Gene Scott, a former AoG minister, married Melissa Scott (a former adult entertainer). When he passed away, she carried on his ministry and still preaches in Glendale, CA.
http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml
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I didn't know that. She did seem a lot younger
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11-07-2014, 11:37 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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I agree with the idea of marrying a new convert being problematic because of the maturity issue, but I think her "past" should be left alone entirely unless she revisits it. Even though it's public, I still don't think it should be dinnertime conversation for those of who are, essentially, now her fellow Christians.
Yes, and IMO that should be the only thing up for discussion. Hence my unofficial "title change."
As for the young man...this could be a case of what Dr. Laura Schlessinger calls "Damsel-In-Distress" syndrome. It's easy to assume that he's interested because of the industry she was involved in, but it's more likely that the pastor's son is trying to "save" her.
Regardless, I think this is their business, and I don't think it really belongs here. This is really, REALLY personal business. IMO.
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It's public information. They put it out there
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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11-07-2014, 11:40 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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Also, in the 3rd chapter of 1 Timothy it has instructions for the Bishop. And his wife in Chapter 3: 11 instructs the wife to be grave, not slanderers, sober faithful in all things. Now without time, how do we know what she is? New Testament also.
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Hmmm interesting. Technically he never should have been a pastor right? The husband of 1 wife?
But what about Paul? He was an Apostle..was he married?
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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11-08-2014, 02:34 AM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
For clarification: I'm not arguing for the specifics of this situation and saying that the pastor's son should or shouldn't marry the woman who has been *named* on this thread. I'm just saying that on PRINCIPLE, it isn't our business, and her past pre-Christ shouldn't matter to us.
I find it particularly repugnant that the thread title framed her by her past instead of her present.
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11-08-2014, 07:12 AM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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Yes, but we have to take the whole thing. If a woman's past as a (well, any kind of sinner) PRE-Christ disqualifies her from being the wife of a minister, then Paul's past as a MURDERER pre-Christ would disqualify him, too, don't you think? And how about this:
"9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."" I Corinthians 6:9-11
I'm fairly certain that the qualifications for bishops and deacons apply to their Christian life; not before they were saved from being sinners.  I think you might want to hesitate before you go digging up bones.
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I agree with you however wisdom would dictate a much slower process in this courtship. If she didn't have this past. On this young man it could be a recipe for destruction.
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11-08-2014, 07:14 AM
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wasn't there a prophet that married a hooker.
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I may be wrong here, but I very highly doubt God had anything to do with this young Pastor rushing to get married to this woman. Hosea was told by God to marry Gomer, so God could show (through their marriage) His love for Israel.
You cannot honestly compare these two situations to be alike.
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11-08-2014, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Hmmm interesting. Technically he never should have been a pastor right? The husband of 1 wife?
But what about Paul? He was an Apostle..was he married?
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Not saying he has to be married, only that if he is married, be so to only one wife.
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11-08-2014, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Regardless, I think this is their business, and I don't think it really belongs here. This is really, REALLY personal business. IMO.
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I agree that this is really personal business. I'm puzzled at why they would contact the local newspaper and offer an interview about it. It's not something of which one should boast, nor is it something which should have been publicly talked about. Nevertheless, it appears they wanted the attention and made the conscious decision to broadcast it via the news.
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