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[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Disciple4life

I have a nickname for Christians who always talk about doom and gloom. Doomers!

I guess the devil is so powerful that we have to just give up and give in.

Anybody who talks about the devil all the time must be on a short leash.

Jesus was the greatest doomer of them all. He knows whats coming. No one says give up and give in. The point is to preach the whole counsel of God.

Jesus himself is the one that said MANY will be offended and hate each other and betray each other. That happens to many in times of persecution and tribulation.

The American Church is especially vunerable. Decades of false teaching or pre trib, no taking up the cross, no dying to self, no holiness and perfection has designed a whole new "Jesus".

Most cannot even bear to hear the testimonies of OTHER CHRISTIANS in parts of the Earth that are suffering now. Having their homes burned now. Having their families scattered, burned alive
and beheaded. Way to negative for us!

We need to get a book of Revelation mindset for end times. Bring back the power of God! Bring back the judgment of God! Bring back the preaching that Christ will come and put down the nations of men!

[mfblume]

To be so caught up in post tribulation concepts so as to judge all doctrines by whether or not it presents doom to the believer is problematic and unhealthy. The bible does not focus on doom like that. It focused on life, and hardships are incidental.

The kingdom is not doom gloom and suffering, it's Righteousness, peace and joy in the holy ghost.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by mfblume

To be so caught up in post tribulation concepts so as to judge all doctrines by whether or not it presents doom to the believer is problematic and unhealthy. The bible does not focus on doom like that. It focused on life, and hardships are incidental.

The kingdom is not doom gloom and suffering, it's Righteousness, peace and joy in the holy ghost.

Obviously that is not my point. My point is that the WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD is not being preached.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Obviously that is not my point. My point is that the WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD is not being preached.

. All of us agree tribulation is the lot for all believers always. But to focus on it more than anything else is wrong. You once said at least Ihop is post tribulation. This should not be our stress. From the abundance of the heart.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by mfblume

. All of us agree tribulation is the lot for all believers always. But to focus on it more than anything else is wrong. You once said at least Ihop is post tribulation. This should not be our stress. From the abundance of the heart.

Right, tribulation seems to always be going on somewhere in the world. Go tell a someone starving to death in Africa they better get right tribulation is coming, I can imagine their resoonse.

[Truthseeker]

To twist something Jesus said would happen to them he spoke to and make for today is not the whole counsel of God.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

The video in itself does not prove this is the end time. It is a warning sign.

I didn't even watch it. I saw the first few seconds and realized it was some amateurish internet hack

I don't understand why everyone watches these youtube videos and believe it's true or believe something is true because they saw it on facebook

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by mfblume

. All of us agree tribulation is the lot for all believers always. But to focus on it more than anything else is wrong. You once said at least Ihop is post tribulation. This should not be our stress. From the abundance of the heart.

Oh you thought that was a sin? Yes to me IHOP is far ahead of most "Apostolic" groups concerning end time truth as well as some other areas. Yes the end time truth is abundant in my heart but ALL the truth is abundant there.

Doom is a message preached by the prophets before you and me. God calls disaster upon sinning nations but first to the sinning Church members.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

To twist something Jesus said would happen to them he spoke to and make for today is not the whole counsel of God.

Ok go back and read this again. Nothing there is addressed to you.

So you must try to twist it to fit yourself in! According to your logic that is.




2To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

7To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:

1Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead 2And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

1Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

2Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

4To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

1James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

1The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth.

Dont leave you much to stand on when you also take out the gospels which were of course written for the people BACK THEN!

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I didn't even watch it. I saw the first few seconds and realized it was some amateurish internet hack

I don't understand why everyone watches these youtube videos and believe it's true or believe something is true because they saw it on facebook

I hardly ever agree fully with what one teaches in a video. But if there is some powerful truth in it I accept it. My experience is many Youtube teachers have more truths than Church Pastors.