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Old 11-20-2014, 12:34 PM
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Re: Oh WAKE UP people!!

Here's my opinion...

I Corinthians 5:12-13 (ESV)
12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? 13 God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”
Our focus should be on keeping the church presentable to Christ. The world will be the world. We are called to be a witness and a light to the world... not to being the world's moral police.

As for a Christian's involvement in politics... I believe a Christian should support the constitutional notion of liberty and justice for all (even sinners). Being a conservative, I believe that the government shouldn't involve itself in our lives unless something endangers the life, liberty, and/or property of another. We should be politically concerned with human freedom and liberty of conscience.

As far as prayer in Schools.... they can't even get our kids up to standard regarding reading, writing, science, and arithmetic. Do I really want them becoming overtly involved in my child's spiritual rearing? Do I want them learning Muslim prayers during "A Week In Islam"? Do I want some liberal New Age teacher facilitating prayer and spiritual discussion in my child's class? Nope. Not me. My kids are there for an education. Their salvation and spiritual upbringing is my responsibility.

I think it's pathetic when Christians want to sloth their duties and delegate them to the "government". Remember that old fashioned idea of "limited government"???

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Old 11-20-2014, 12:50 PM
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School prayer was good in the golden age; however, I wouldn't want it today. Not with the political correctness in this country. Like was mentioned, you'd have to have a Muslim offer prayer and New Age meditation. That's on top of the other religions which would demand to have a part.

All I want is for the first amendment to be honored by schools, and my children be allowed to read their Bible and pray during recess, lunch or open periods. I don't need the school to lead anything. I'd like them to simply stay out of the way and allow us to express our religious freedom.
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Old 11-20-2014, 01:39 PM
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Seriously? I doubt that such a civic activity is the same as the type of activity the following statements would incite in many:



Do you truly believe that such activity as your statements imply are representative of an ambassador of Jesus Christ, whom "real" Christians are to be? As for me, I cannot even begin to imagine how such activities as you suggest would serve to emulate our Lord, but that's just how I see it. You're free to view it otherwise, and that you apparently do, therefore I disagree.

Nevertheless, you've yet to explain how I have taken out of context Paul's instructions to Timothy.
Origanalist asked a very important question to which I have yet to see the answer; Was the Revolutionary War a sin? Should we have stayed under the rule of the British empire?
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I would not have participated.
But God sets up Governments without human intent? You probably would not have helped Joshua or David then.

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Old 11-20-2014, 02:32 PM
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Concerning school prayer....So the fact that there might be drawbacks to allowing it makes the fact that a Federal Court unconstitutionally abolished OK with you guys? Could not local communities have decided this issue for themselves? That's the point, the SCOTUS had no right to even hear the case.

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Old 11-20-2014, 03:21 PM
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"Meh" on corporate prayer, anyway...and I'm curious who the "we" is, @ "American Revolution."
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:00 PM
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:06 PM
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Origanalist asked a very important question to which I have yet to see the answer; Was the Revolutionary War a sin? Should we have stayed under the rule of the British empire?
All war is sin. All oppression is sin. However, God often brings good out of our necessary evil.
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But God sets up Governments without human intent? You probably would not have helped Joshua or David then.
You don't see the difference in the theocratic Hebrew nation and the Christian "my kingdom is not of this world, if it were, my servants would fight"? Important distinction.
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Old 11-20-2014, 11:02 PM
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Origanalist asked a very important question to which I have yet to see the answer; Was the Revolutionary War a sin? Should we have stayed under the rule of the British empire?
You're looking from an answer from Christians. The Revolutionary War was Christians against Christians. Or was it governments against governments? Hard to tell - maybe we should let the governments fight and keep the church presentable to Christ.

If you want to die for your form of government, go ahead. I'll stick with Jesus.
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