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  n david Bump 12-09-2014, 08:12 PM
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12-07-2014, 01:15 PM
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Re: Saddened by NY Grand Jury Decision To NOT Indi
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Originally Posted by jfrog
Surprisingly I'm with Prax on this one.
Fact 1: Cops believed man was selling loose cigs
Fact 2: Cops were attempting to arrest the man for selling loose cigs
Fact 3: The submission hold that the officer placed Garner in primarily restricted his blood flow and not his airflow.
Fact 4: Some people define a choke hold as only a hold that restricts the airflow. Others call a choke hold any hold that restricts the air flow or blood flow.
My opinion: Cops should be allowed to use the necessary amount of force that is needed to apprehend a lawbreaker while placing themselves at minimal risk for harm. In other words a quick take down followed by a dogpile is likely the safest course of action for the cops when a man is being beligerent and saying things like "this ends here" and "don't touch me" and waving his arms around while saying those things. Taking quick sudden action before the situation can escalate any further is the right thing to do.
How else would any of you rather the police behave?
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Great post! Very concise! 
Have we agreed on anything in the past? Today might be the first time. 
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12-07-2014, 02:53 PM
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Re: Saddened by NY Grand Jury Decision To NOT Indi
Repeating. It was a legal hold, not an illegal chokehold. The man died from cardiac arrest not asphyxia
The Coroners report said it was merely a contributing factor along with his poor health and being on his chest with someone compressing down on his back
There was a black supervisor on the scene that could have stopped it but herself said she did not thing the man was in danger
The cop that used the head hold was NOT the cop that approached the man
So WHY was only that cop the one that was to be indicted or not? Why is he the scape goat?
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12-07-2014, 05:01 PM
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Re: Saddened by NY Grand Jury Decision To NOT Indi
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Great post! Very concise!
Have we agreed on anything in the past? Today might be the first time. |
Thanks PO. I think this is the first and only time. It can't be good for your conservative reputation to agree with me. Might wanna recant your opinion? Jk
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