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01-29-2015, 03:11 PM
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Re: Brother Irvin Baxter Jr Endtime Magazine
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Exactly what could be MORE of an abomination 
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The bible nowhere says "the Antichrist willneed a temple on Mt Moriah."
The man of sin is found in the naos of God, a term Paul uses ONLY AND ALWAYS to refer to the CHURCH.
Revelation never mentions "Antichrist". The ONLY place "Antichrist" is found in scripture is in John's epistle. And he explicitly said that, in HIS DAY, MANY antichrists were on the scene. He further said WHOEVER denies Christ is antichrist.
Why people refuse to accept scripture truth, instead turning aside to FABLES is beyond my ability to comprehend.
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01-29-2015, 03:12 PM
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Re: Brother Irvin Baxter Jr Endtime Magazine
Islam teaches the following about the al Mahdi:
He will be Islam's deliverer.
He is to be a descendent of Muhammad.
He is to bear the name or some variant name of Muhammad.
He will look like a Bani Israel.
He will lead the Muslims and wage jihad against them rest of the world.
He will re-establish the Caliphate and rule over the world.
He will cause Islam to be the only religion in the world and rule with Islamic Law.
He will cause the world to embrace the Islamic calendar.
He will be much loved by the world.
He will conquer the Jews and slaughter them.
He will set up his seat of authority in Jerusalem.
He will rule for seven years (or 8, or 9).
He will make a treaty of seven years with a person of priestly lineage.
He will possess and distribute wealth to the Muslims.
He will discover a new Torah, Gospel, and the Ark, and will use them to argue and persuade Jews and Christian, and cause many people to follow him into Islam.
He will have Isa (Islamic version of Jesus) to assist him.
His assistant, Isa, will kill the ad-Dajjal (Islamic version of the antichrist) who exercises miracles that will torment the world.
He will mark all men to distinguish Muslims from the infidels, the Muslim's face will then shine while that of a non-Muslim will become black.
During his rule, there will be good rain, great harvest and crops.
He will not work miracles; rather the working of miracles is attributed to Isa (the Islamic Jesus) who testifies to the world that Al-Mahdi is Savior.
The Bible teaches the following regarding the Futurist version of the Antichrist:
His power base will arise in the remnants of Seleucid Empire (which includes Assyria and Khorasan). *
Some say he will be a Jew, others say he will be a gentile
Starts humble, given authority to rule.
People voluntarily give power to him.
He is given power, throne and authority by the dragon.
He changes his religion.
Most Muslim states of the Middle East, except possibly Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. The Bible states 10 nations, and three of them will be subdued.
He will bring the entire world under subjection.
By his words, will win over many people, including Jews and Christians. "By peace he will destroy many".
Greatly loved by the world (after he conquers the world).
Comes on a white horse, conquering (one interpretation).
A large army of at least 200 million will assemble in Iraq region.
Will wage war and no one can stand against him.
Will rule for seven years (most common interpretation).
Peace treaty of seven years with the people of God. This treaty will be broken in the middle of seven years.
Will kill many Jews and Christians.
Beheading is one of the methods of execution. It is a distinguishing mark of Antichrist.
Will change the law.
Will likely change the calendar. ("change the set times")
Will cause deceit to prosper.
Direct people to worship the dragon. Establish one religion in the world.
Great prosperity and wealth. Distributes booty and land.
Antichrist has Second Beast (False Prophet that is like a lamb but speaks as a dragon) to assist him.
The Beast will kill the Two Witnesses who exercise miracles that will torment those who try to kill them.
The Bible does not explicitly ascribe miracles to Antichrist. His assistant will perform miracles for him.
Another interesting point is that the Bible lists the nations that will form an alliance with the Antichrist. These nations are:
Egypt, which he will attack and subdue (Daniel 11:42).
Meschek and Tubal (most likely parts of Turkey, parts of Southern Russia, parts of Iran),
Magog (a region convering parts of Turkey, Syria, and/or former Soviet Republics of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Dagestan),
Persia (modern Iran and Iraq. Ancient Persia also includes Iraq. The Euphrates River in Iraq is also mentioned together with the two Beasts in Rev 16:12-13),
Cush (African Cush covers parts of Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia. Asian Cush covers Arabia through Euphrates),
Put (Libya),
Gomer (Cappadocia, Turkey),
Togarmah (southeastern part of Turkey near Syria) The reader should note
all these nations are predominantly Islamic peoples. Islam teaches that the army that comes to support the al Mahdi (with black flags) will come from Khorasan.
Where is Khorasan??? Afghanistan.
The ISIS militants destabilizing the Middle East are all Jihadists trying to prepare for al Mahdi. From Afghanistan to Iraq... what do they wave? Black flags.
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01-29-2015, 03:15 PM
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Re: Brother Irvin Baxter Jr Endtime Magazine
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01-29-2015, 03:15 PM
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Re: Brother Irvin Baxter Jr Endtime Magazine
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Originally Posted by Esaias
The bible nowhere says "the Antichrist willneed a temple on Mt Moriah."
The man of sin is found in the naos of God, a term Paul uses ONLY AND ALWAYS to refer to the CHURCH.
Revelation never mentions "Antichrist". The ONLY place "Antichrist" is found in scripture is in John's epistle. And he explicitly said that, in HIS DAY, MANY antichrists were on the scene. He further said WHOEVER denies Christ is antichrist.
Why people refuse to accept scripture truth, instead turning aside to FABLES is beyond my ability to comprehend.
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It should be noted that the Hebrew Bible identifies the Temple Mount in Jerusalem as Mount Moriah, as early as the First Temple period in the book of II Chronicles, around 1,700 years predating Islam's account.
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01-29-2015, 03:16 PM
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Re: Brother Irvin Baxter Jr Endtime Magazine
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Originally Posted by Aquila
What I find interesting about the theory that the Antichrist will appear as the Islamic al Mahdi is that Islamic prophecy teaches that this al Mahdi will do exactly what the Bible states the Antichrist will do. It's a mirror image of Christian Futurism... and they have been expecting this for centuries. The Islamic jihadists that are destabilizing the entire planet right now are radicals who believe that al Mahdi is coming and they are essentially trying to throw the non-Islamic world into chaos so that he has the advantage when he appears. The goal of ISIS is to establish a purely Islamic State, a Caliphate. Why? Because the Islamic prophecies teach that this coming al Mahdi will assume leadership of a revival of the Caliphate. Should a miracle working "al Mahdi" appear... nearly 1.6 billion people would be prepared to embrace him and then kill or die for him... nearly overnight. The prophecies concerning the Temple Mount also feature in Islamic prophecy. The al Mahdi conquers the Jews and takes Jerusalem, offering worship and praise to Allah upon the Temple Mount. Many believe that the Jews have to rebuild their temple for the Antichrist to do this. However, as we speak there is a religious structure already built on the Temple Mount.. the Al Aqsa Mosque (Dome of the Rock). It is here the Islamic prophecy has the al Mahdi performing worship and praise to Allah for victory over the Jews. It is from here that he begins a global campaign to bring the entire world into subjugation to Islamic law (changing of times and laws for the entire world). Also, Islam is the only culture today that values "beheading" as an execution for unbelievers and apostates. The Revelation specifically mentions how the martyrs were "beheaded". Halal laws govern food and the economy in Islam. Should such a man gain power over the oil in the Middle East, gain control of the holy land, bring the global community of Muslims under his control, and acquire nuclear weapons... the entire world would be at his feet. Also, in Islam, the al Mahdi even marks his followers on the right hand or forehead. EVERYTHING is a mirror image of biblical Futurism. The most shocking thing is that this isn't a theory... it's happening right before our eyes on the news every night. On 9/11 we were propelled into a global war against radicals awaiting the al Mahdi... and he hasn't even arrived yet. We're already engaging his believers. It's now. And if this is so... the end could begin the moment it is reported that Islamic leaders are consulting with a man they believe to be the al Mahdi.
I have attached an image that shows three characters in on column written in Greek... the second column in Arabic praising Allah. Notice the similarity in the characters. In the Greek language... the Arabic symbols would mean, 666.
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the Quran is a rip off of the NT, the OT, Gnosticism and Bedouinism with some pre-islamic paganism thrown in
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01-29-2015, 03:27 PM
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Re: Brother Irvin Baxter Jr Endtime Magazine
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Originally Posted by Esaias
sigh
Carry on.
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Please read this slowly and try to understand the point I'm trying to make. It is a point that illustrates something that we've NEVER seen in any Futurist "theory" regarding the Beast and the Antichrist.
I can understand the sigh. I mean, look at Futurism's record. For example Futurists have speculated the following:
- The United Nations would be the Beast. Never happened, too liberal and human rights oriented. No one in the United Nations had a plan or framework similar to the agenda of the Antichrist's.
- Gorbachev would be the Antichrist because of the birthmark. Dude was a neo-liberal who faded from politics. Gorbachev never had a plan or agenda similar to the Antichrist's.
- Reagan, nothing close to Antichrist potential. Reagan never had a plan or agenda similar to the Antichrist's.
- The European Union. But these countries are all very liberal and tend to distance from war or conflict. They've never had a plan or agenda similar to that of the Antichrist's. ... and the list could go on. So the knee jerk reaction to any Futurist thought is one of frustration and well... a "sigh". I know, I get it, and I've done it myself. But...
But this al Mahdi thing is unique.
The interesting thing is... these people DO believe in a coming leader who DOES have a plan or agenda nearly exactly like that of Futurism's Antichrist. They are already beheading people and trying to destabilize the entire world in preparation for his coming. They are already setting up for an agenda that DOES match that of Futurism's Antichrist. We're already engaging this al Mahdi's followers... and no one has come out claiming to be the al Mahdi... yet. This ISN'T a theory. Look at the flag draped coffins returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. Look at Ground Zero where the WTC once stood. These people are already at war with us. It's NOT a theory. People planning to embrace an agenda exactly like that of Futurism's Antichrist are already at war with us, killing our soldiers, beheading prisoners, demanding hundreds of millions in ransom, threatening Islamic nations who do not align with them, and are feverishly seeking nuclear weapons. Even if their "al Mahdi" doesn't appear and if he does he proves not to be the Antichrist... they have an agenda that mirrors that of Futurism's Antichrist... this is a fact.
You see... you've been conditioned by all the failed predictions of Futurism. Conditioned to sigh and roll your eyes because the agenda doesn't even exist in the suspected "Antichrists" of the previous "theories". But this isn't a "theory". It's truly a confrontation with people who want to fulfill the end time prophecies, their coming Savior doing exactly what we believe the future Antichrist would do. So it is entirely different.
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01-29-2015, 03:28 PM
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Re: Brother Irvin Baxter Jr Endtime Magazine
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the Quran is a rip off of the NT, the OT, Gnosticism and Bedouinism with some pre-islamic paganism thrown in
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Yes... I agree. But are you getting my point? Please read my post above and share your thoughts.
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01-29-2015, 03:30 PM
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Re: Brother Irvin Baxter Jr Endtime Magazine
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Yes... I agree. But are you getting my point? Please read my post above.
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No...did you get mine?
They ripped off the bible, changed some names and locations
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-29-2015, 03:37 PM
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Re: Brother Irvin Baxter Jr Endtime Magazine
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
No...did you get mine?
They ripped off the bible, changed some names and locations
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Yes, I got your point. And I agree, they ripped off the Bible, changed some names and locations. But are you getting what I'm trying to say in post #26?
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...9&postcount=26
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01-29-2015, 03:39 PM
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Re: Brother Irvin Baxter Jr Endtime Magazine
Frankly, if every Futurist gave up Futurism... the Islamic world will be trying to fulfill "Islamic prophecies" that mirror the very prophecies the Futurists abandoned. We've NEVER seen such a potential player in any Futurist theory of prophecy before. Even if we all became Full Preterist... they'd be advancing an agenda to unify under a chosen one, conquer Israel, and launch the bloodiest global campaign of terror this world has ever known... from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. And yes... they will "behead" Jews and Christians who do not convert.
Due to all of this Islamic insanity... 2014 was declared the bloodiest year regarding Christian persecution since... the time of Diocletian. That's REAL BIG.
2014: The Year of the Christian Genocide
http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...tian-genocide/
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