Why I Am A Futurist - Page 34

Michael The Disciple · #1 02-14-2015, 06:46 AM

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Who are we? The church. To say the bibles not for us is nuts imo, because there's letters written to folks w particular issues, we are not the faithful church in Philidelphia and the Lukewarm church in laodicea, skitsophrenically at the same time, but we can learn from their strengths or shortcomings to be better as his bride now.

Wrong on several levels. First off after the coming of Jesus no one can get in the Church.

1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. 2And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: 4But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. 6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. 7Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

How can you assume the Church goes on as usual AFTER the coming of Jesus?

Next off Prets make it FORCEFULLY CLEAR if scripture is not addressed to YOU what right do you have claiming anything that was given to someone else? The scriptures were addressed to certain Churches none of which we were in.

And since Jesus already came and resurrected the ones he promised he would what right do we have to a Bible that was written to teach THEM how to prepare for his coming? How do we know he wants the same things for us as he did for them seeing his coming appears to have ended their "dispensation" or "Church age".

It would be like someone trying to serve God in the New Testament Church out of a Bible that was only written to Jews.

It would not be relevant FOR THEM.

shag · #2 02-26-2015, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Wrong on several levels. First off after the coming of Jesus no one can get in the Church.

1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. 2And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: 4But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. 6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. 7Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

How can you assume the Church goes on as usual AFTER the coming of Jesus?

Next off Prets make it FORCEFULLY CLEAR if scripture is not addressed to YOU what right do you have claiming anything that was given to someone else? The scriptures were addressed to certain Churches none of which we were in.

And since Jesus already came and resurrected the ones he promised he would what right do we have to a Bible that was written to teach THEM how to prepare for his coming? How do we know he wants the same things for us as he did for them seeing his coming appears to have ended their "dispensation" or "Church age".

It would be like someone trying to serve God in the New Testament Church out of a Bible that was only written to Jews.

It would not be relevant FOR THEM.

Do you believe that ANYTHING Jesus ever said, was speaking specifically to those in their generation, in regard to things happening, and will not effect anyone in later generations?

If so, how are you any different than you are describing?

Where is the rapture in the 10 virgins parable? Do u see it as the 5 foolish left behind in a rapture in this parable?

Sean · #3 02-26-2015, 08:04 AM

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Do you believe that ANYTHING Jesus ever said, was speaking specifically to those in their generation, in regard to things happening, and will not effect anyone in later generations?

If so, how are you any different than you are describing?

Where is the rapture in the 10 virgins parable? Do u see it as the 5 foolish left behind in a rapture in this parable?

I do!

I scream, you scream, we all scream for Ice Cream!

shag · #4 02-26-2015, 08:18 AM

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I do!

U view it at rapture not millinial then, right?

Sean · #5 02-14-2015, 07:33 AM

Bowas, what would happen to somebody that you found out would kill one of your closest loved ones in one year. And you found a way to see the future and could verify it?

Would they still be living on the day the event of killing your loved one took place?

Sean · #6 02-26-2015, 02:46 PM

Yes, the rapture.

Sean · #7 02-28-2015, 10:32 PM

Its(Mystery Babylon) the Democrat party

shazeep · #8 03-01-2015, 06:19 AM

hmm, i think mystery babylon is better described as a system, of which nyc is merely a symptom; and it would follow that it is a "trinity," i think

and that you have most likely have been side-tracked, @ "liberals," wadr.
http://www.biblenews1.com/babylon/babylon.html

Sean · #9 03-01-2015, 08:10 AM

Seriously, the great city, Babylon is Rome(read more)......http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=47049

shazeep · #10 03-01-2015, 11:23 AM

i would agree that at one time Rome repped Mystery Babylon, yes; but no more, imo.