Why I Am A Futurist

[mfblume]

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

The resurrection makes the bodies immortal, not leaves. You deny the word, Sean. By thinking you are faithful to one passage, your interpretation is proved false by forcing you to deny another passage. This is how error is exposed.

When the dead are raised, they are then at that moment incorruptible. Your interpretation denies that.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mfblume

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

The resurrection makes the bodies immortal, not leaves. You deny the word, Sean. By thinking you are faithful to one passage, your interpretation is proved false by forcing you to deny another passage. This is how error is exposed.

When the dead are raised, they are then at that moment incorruptible. Your interpretation denies that.

Yep, in the afterlife, thats when the tree is revealed to the saints....boy Mike, you finally got it...YAY!

My sister in law went to the Tree of Life last year, she is there as we speak!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Sean

Yep, in the afterlife, thats when the tree is revealed to the saints....boy Mike, you finally got it...YAY!

My sister in law went to the Tree of Life last year, she is there as we speak!

No. It did not say our bodies are made immortal by leaves from the tree. lol. It says when they are raised they are raised immortal. Leaves have nothing to do with it.

I think this is the most ridiculous conversation I ever had. Unbelievable. And you do not even have a church.

[Sean]

Thanks bro. she is at the Tree of Life in the New Jerusalem, no matter how absurd you guys think it is.....

22 But ye(living saints) are come unto (#1)mount Sion, and unto the (#2)city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem(where my sister in law is now), and (#3)to an innumerable company of angels,

23 (#4)To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and(#5) to God the Judge of all, and (#6)to the spirits of just men made perfect,(she is now here in the New Jerusalem as a spirit of just men made perfect)


She is there now...Revelation 22

22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

2 In the midst of the street of it(New Jerusalem), and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.(she will never have cancer again)....

She made it...14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city....She has a right to the tree of life in the New Jerusalem city!

[shazeep]

there seems to be quite a bit of difference of opinion as to where the New Jerusalem even is; or will be. Seems like the leaves being for the healing of the nations would put it on earth, the new earth?

[Sean]

We see it in the city though

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

there seems to be quite a bit of difference of opinion as to where the New Jerusalem even is; or will be. Seems like the leaves being for the healing of the nations would put it on earth, the new earth?

Hebrews 12:22 says we already came to heavenly Jerusalem. It's not a physical city in that case.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Hebrews 12:22 says we already came to heavenly Jerusalem. It's not a physical city in that case.

Hmmm....the city is not a physical city, but the rest of these 6 entities are what they are?

Are all of them symbolic, or only the city?

22 But ye(living saints) are come unto (#1 invisible and real)mount Sion, and unto the (#2 invisible and real)city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and (#3 invisible and real)to an innumerable company of angels,

23 (#4 VISIBLE and real)To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and(#5 invisible and real) to God the Judge of all, and (#6 invisible and real)to the spirits of just men made perfect,


BTW..."And" means "also"

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

Hmmm....the city is not a physical city, but the rest of these 6 entities are what they are?

Are all of them symbolic, or only the city?

22 But ye(living saints) are come unto (#1 invisible and real)mount Sion, and unto the (#2 invisible and real)city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and (#3 invisible and real)to an innumerable company of angels,

23 (#4 VISIBLE and real)To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and(#5 invisible and real) to God the Judge of all, and (#6 invisible and real)to the spirits of just men made perfect,


BTW..."And" means "also"

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[shazeep]

ok, and yet we find measurements for the city, a physical description, etc, that none of us see. Also, other passages seem to indicate "future."