We Gentiles are running out of time - Page 3

mfblume · #21 02-12-2015, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowas

Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Perhaps this.

Jerusalem was occupied/troddened down by the Romans/Gentiles at that time, and at that time they killed the Jews and dispersed them to all nations at the end of that time, and that time was completed in the final 42 months of the gentiles surrounding Jerusalem and destroying the temple, when that time or the times pf the gentiles to accomplish this was in fact completed.

The times of the Gentiles was fulfilled when they finished the attack and killled so many Jews and led the others throughout the world.

This is one perspective.

Right.

Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Sean · #22 02-12-2015, 12:17 PM

Wrong.

shazeep · #23 02-12-2015, 05:39 PM

the more i learn, the less i know.

TJJJ · #24 02-12-2015, 05:45 PM

"Yawn"

So Tell us Great Prophet Sean... just how much time do we have and define little!

Faulty eschatology has embarrassed more than one Pentecostal.

TJJJ · #25 02-12-2015, 05:45 PM

When do we finally run out of time for the last time?

shazeep · #26 02-12-2015, 05:52 PM

my guess is when you die, like everyone else

we certainly have enough Scriptural indication for this--nothing new under the sun, don't get sucked in by what everyone else is saying will happen, etc.

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Originally Posted by Sean

I wouldnt say that.....28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes

ok well that is the people, not the country. So, as the people are the nation, or "national," my mistake. I'll rephrase

"I doubt God even recognizes the state of Israel, as such; and it is very likely that 'Israel' should be considered in a spiritual context here."

TJJJ · #27 02-12-2015, 05:53 PM

The Church is the Israel of God.

The current national Israel is not and does not figure in any way to the prophetic scheme of things.

The current Israel of just another lost nation that needs Acts 2:38 to be saved.

Sean · #28 02-12-2015, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

my guess is when you die, like everyone else

we certainly have enough Scriptural indication for this--nothing new under the sun, don't get sucked in by what everyone else is saying will happen, etc.
ok well that is the people, not the country. So, as the people are the nation, or "national," my mistake. I'll rephrase

"I doubt God even recognizes the state of Israel, as such; and it is very likely that 'Israel' should be considered in a spiritual context here."

"Israel" is a group of people.

mfblume · #29 02-12-2015, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tjjj

the church is the israel of god.

The current national israel is not and does not figure in any way to the prophetic scheme of things.

The current israel of just another lost nation that needs acts 2:38 to be saved.

fresh air!!!! Thank you!!!

Sean · #30 02-12-2015, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TJJJ

The Church is the Israel of God.

The current national Israel is not and does not figure in any way to the prophetic scheme of things.

The current Israel of just another lost nation that needs Acts 2:38 to be saved.

True, but they will be regrafted in to the tree(God) according to Romans 11.

This will happen when Jesus returns to earth at His 2nd coming....

Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.(they as a nation WILL believe and ALL be saved when Jesus appears the 2nd time as verse 26 below states)

24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.