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05-04-2015, 07:33 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by n david
You would call Jesus Christ and the New Birth message a "slimy self-serving message." I'm not sure what you hate more - Stoneking and Wilson, or the message they preach.
Why are you on Apostolic Friends Forum? You just called the message Stoneking gave "slimy" and "self-serving." If you don't agree with the basic doctrine you shouldn't be on AFF.
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what yack. let's all just become judges then, shall we
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05-04-2015, 07:39 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
You need to go back and focus on telling me why posting the picture of the wrong room by me as General Assembly was a lie but the exact wrong room posted on Art's twitter a few months ago captioned General Assembly is OK. That will catch you up. Otherwise it will leave your motive in sidestepping that in question. Page up, read, explain. If you want to rant and rave and namecall with zero data or facts to back it you shouldnt be on AFF either. Every single thing I posted about this sordid story had a reference to go back to and explain why.
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98% of what you've posted have been lies and personal attacks on Wilson and Stoneking. None of what you've posted against either man has any evidence or facts behind it.
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05-04-2015, 07:44 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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You need to go back and focus on telling me why posting the picture of the wrong room by me as General Assembly was a lie but the exact wrong room posted on Art's twitter a few months ago captioned General Assembly is OK. That will catch you up. Otherwise it will leave your motive in sidestepping that in question. Page up, read, explain. If you want to rant and rave and namecall with zero data or facts to back it you shouldnt be on AFF either. Every single thing I posted about this sordid story had a reference to go back to and explain why.
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You are missing the point: (I'm not surprised)
The purpose of this whole "Assination of Art Wilsons character" and the creation of most of this thread WAS A PHOTO.
And you just did the same thing WALKS IN ISLAM. you are a hypocrite.
You were killing this mans reputation and hurting his family by postings after postings about this stuff. With names like " charlatan" And you did the same thing.
"Ye who is without sin let him cast the first stone"
"Attacking someone without mercy is for the evil"
"No one is perfect"
PS: that woman who did most of the attacks on social media. Finally posted that Wilson twitted a apology and mentioned the picture was not his picture and was sorry for the confusion. And then posted his pictures on the reply. Saying: this is our pictures.
I love someone who will continue to try and right mistakes.
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05-04-2015, 08:45 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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You are missing the point: (I'm not surprised)
The purpose of this whole "Assination of Art Wilsons character" and the creation of most of this thread WAS A PHOTO.
And you just did the same thing WALKS IN ISLAM. you are a hypocrite.
You were killing this mans reputation and hurting his family by postings after postings about this stuff. With names like " charlatan" And you did the same thing.
"Ye who is without sin let him cast the first stone"
"Attacking someone without mercy is for the evil"
"No one is perfect"
PS: that woman who did most of the attacks on social media. Finally posted that Wilson twitted a apology and mentioned the picture was not his picture and was sorry for the confusion. And then posted his pictures on the reply. Saying: this is our pictures.
I love someone who will continue to try and right mistakes.
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Are those little pink pigtails you're posting there dude?
With the "wii is a liar" on a picture I posted and a complete dodge on the exact same picture and exact same label on Art's post nobody is going to miss my point about you. Your label towards me on that issue means that yes, even according to you posting misleading pictures IS lying and if me posting THAT picture with THAT title made me a liar then I was always 100% right about what I have been posting. That is just another example, one that you helped me with actually. Thanks.
My pop had a different set of rules for what happened if you fessed up to a lie before you were caught or after you were caught. My pop was a christian. The rules I was raised under therefore are christian rules from a christian household. Those rules were applied on this board.
With that said, "that woman" also had a description of the first service pulled (poof gone) from another church website, that claimed at the very first service "the place went wild and people were receiving the 'holy ghost' right there" simply by pointing out that Wilson tweeted that they actually had their first convert months later. In that, "that woman" cleaned out another little 'exaggeration' mess that was of no consequence and thus not worth mentioning earlier on this board.
When we do something wrong, our families often suffer. That is a consequence of our own action, not a consequence of being caught doing it. I am happy to see that he has formally and publicly apologized. Had he done nothing wrong, I do not believe he would have felt the need to apologize, I believe he would have categorically stated he did nothing wrong, made his case, and left it at that.
In this, I neither slandered him, hurt his reputation, nor hurt his family. His own actions resulted in the damage to his reputation and his family. Hopefully we can all move on with that lesson learned, that we often hurt the innocent by our actions.
PS: assination isn't actually a word. You might wanna fix that.
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05-04-2015, 09:05 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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98% of what you've posted have been lies and personal attacks on Wilson and Stoneking. None of what you've posted against either man has any evidence or facts behind it.
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Well except for that little bit about who the real wives of Osama Bin Laden were and that teeny thing that Art Wilson apologized for.
Are you so dumb, so numb in the brain to be trying to actually somehow make a case that the man actually admitted and apologized for NOTHING?
Get lost with that story.
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05-04-2015, 09:08 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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You would call Jesus Christ and the New Birth message a "slimy self-serving message." I'm not sure what you hate more - Stoneking and Wilson, or the message they preach.
Why are you on Apostolic Friends Forum? You just called the message Stoneking gave "slimy" and "self-serving." If you don't agree with the basic doctrine you shouldn't be on AFF.
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Yes. Get this. It's bold and in red. So you can't miss it.
"I give you Jesus", as if someone could actually do or has the authority to do that, is arrogant, slimy, and self-serving.
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05-04-2015, 09:10 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
My pop had a different set of rules for what happened if you fessed up to a lie before you were caught or after you were caught. My pop was a christian. The rules I was raised under therefore are christian rules from a christian household. Those rules were applied on this board.
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Didn't you apologize AFTER YOU GOT CAUGHT???
Saying: "oops??? My Mistake.."
Think you broke the house rule....
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05-04-2015, 09:12 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
Yes. Get this. It's bold and in red. So you can't miss it.
"I give you Jesus", as if someone could actually do or has the authority to do that, is arrogant, slimy, and self-serving.
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"I give you Jesus" Is a term: for subject examination
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05-04-2015, 09:29 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
"You won't be able to say, 'Here it is!' or 'It's over there!' For the Kingdom of God is already among you."
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05-04-2015, 09:33 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Well except for that little bit about who the real wives of Osama Bin Laden were and that teeny thing that Art Wilson apologized for.
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1) Stoneking didn't lie about the wives of obl. He repeated what he was told. Period. He didn't lie. Is your turban wrapped so tightly that you can't understand that simple fact? Stoneking never claimed to meet, baptize or witness the baptism/infilling of the HG of these women.
2) Even after Wilson made it clear what happened, you continue to smear him, labeling him a liar and charlatan. He didn't intend to deceive anyone. You, on the other hand, have done nothing but try to deceive people.
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
Are you so dumb, so numb in the brain to be trying to actually somehow make a case that the man actually admitted and apologized for NOTHING?
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Nope, just saying if you haven't been at every service he's preached, you cannot make the claim that he hasn't corrected the claim.
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
Yes. Get this. It's bold and in red. So you can't miss it.
"I give you Jesus", as if someone could actually do or has the authority to do that, is arrogant, slimy, and self-serving.
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I get that, being a muslim who serves a dead and false prophet, it's difficult for you to understand how a person filled with the Holy Ghost is able to rightly say, "I give you Jesus"
It's not "arrogant, slimy and self-serving." It's simply the truth!
Peter said "Silver and gold have I none, but such as I have give I you, in the Name of Jesus Christ rise up and walk."
Had you lived when this happened, I bet you would have felt Peter also was "arrogant, slimy and self-serving."
Jesus Christ has given authority and power to all who have received the Holy Ghost and who bear His Name. Stoneking has the authority to stand and declare "I give you Jesus," because Christ gave him the authority to do so.
It's not "arrogant, slimy OR self-serving." It's simply exercising the power and authority given him by the Holy Ghost.
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