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05-09-2015, 12:28 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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As Jesus never does or says anything that has not been written - please refer to Isaiah 53:10.
"Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand."
"Soul" in the Hebrew here is defined as " living being, life, self, person". He laid down mortality.
"Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen." I Timothy 1:17
"He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord God will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the Lord hath spoken it.
9 And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the Lord; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation." Isaiah 25:8-9
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Isaiah 53 refers to Jesus? This chapter then notes that Jesus is a "righteous servant". This is directly contrary to Apostolic Doctrine.
11 After he has suffered, he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.
You can't use that reference in this area of the forum. Isaiah needs to be banned or sent to the debate room.
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05-09-2015, 12:34 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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05-09-2015, 01:23 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Why do you need “proof” posted of mismatches that you can read yourself?
On the crucifixion:
Story in Matthew
In Matthew, Jesus did not carry his own cross, both of those crucified with him heaped insults on him, there was an earthquake and walking dead. This is the only version with earthquake and walking dead. No mention that the sun stopped shining.
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Being the only version does not mean it did not occur. You are employing a logical fallacy that says because the others did not mention it, that means it did not happen
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In Luke, Jesus did not carry his own cross, one of those crucified with him insulted him, but the other one was said to defend him. The sun stopped shining, but there was no earthquake, and no walking dead. Jesus’ last words were recorded, though not in Matt and Mark
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Luke does not mention the other thief did NOT insult Jesus. Clearly it's possible they both did but one of them repented and had a change of heart.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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05-09-2015, 01:24 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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You have raised yourself to arbiter of what constitutes salvation.
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No he did not. He quoted the bible.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-09-2015, 01:25 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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I challenged the doctrine of holy hair and imaginary converts. Is this now basic Apostolic doctrine? I say it is not.
Otherwise, does copying, pasting, and posting verses attributed to Jesus truly challenge basic Apostolic doctrines?
Should you stop and think about that?
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Actually you have been challenging the basic doctrines of salvation of the bible.....
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-09-2015, 01:27 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Are you suggesting I started this nonsense? If this belongs in the debate room move the thread. I answer posts, good, bad, insulting, or indifferent, that are directly posted to me.
I do not actually recall doing, saying, or challenging you or anything you have ever said.
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Actually, you did pretty much start it. This topic is about LS addressing the UN...not about attacking LS, Art Or anyone else nor their beliefs or teachings.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-09-2015, 01:29 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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RULE REMINDER:
Isaiah 53 refers to Jesus? This chapter then notes that Jesus is a "righteous servant". This is directly contrary to Apostolic Doctrine.
11 After he has suffered, he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.
You can't use that reference in this area of the forum. Isaiah needs to be banned or sent to the debate room.
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Take it to the Debate room
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-09-2015, 09:24 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
You have raised yourself to arbiter of what constitutes salvation.
Anyone can take what they hear you or anyone else teach this and if what you teach directly contradicts what the book you teach from says anyone can, with reference, challenge it.
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All talk and no evidence presented, I am not the arbiter. I repeat what the bible said in plain terms. That's why you show no evidence because your claim cannot stand if you try.
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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All talk and no evidence presented, I am not the arubtre. I replace what the bible said in plain terms. That's why you show no evidence because your claim cannot stand if you try.
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so wadr you show that you do not understand what "arbitrate" means, when you condemn someone to hell, and then say you have not arbitrated. Very hard to discuss anything with someone who has two sets of definitions for every concept...
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05-09-2015, 10:05 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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so wadr you show that you do not understand what "arbitrate" means, when you condemn someone to hell, and then say you have not arbitrated. Very hard to discuss anything with someone who has two sets of definitions for every concept...
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Typos from my mobile device lol. Oh boy.
No the Bible arbitrated. Not me. It says the only way to God is Jesus -- Jesus said that -- and for those who don't go to God through Jesus don't get to God at all. And so if they are not getting to God they're lost. Simple.
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