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Old 06-01-2007, 04:51 PM
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There are those, like CrakJak, who believe everything ever damned will eventually be restored in salvation.

I strongly disagree with it, but let's discuss this. I want to tackle it and get into all the chapters that universal salvationists use.

They use Romans 5 and say that unless Christ's salvation restores EVERYONE, then Adam's sin was more powerful than Christ's redemption, since Adam made ALL MEN SINNERS.
Thanks Bro. Blume, let's to it. How about this just to get it started, this is going to be fun, because when folks honestly look at all the evidence UR is difficult to deny.

(Rev. 20.11) Records White Throne Judgment, (Rev. 21.9)The New Jerusalem, then (Rev. 22.2) "In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life...yielding its fruit EVERY month. The leaves of the tree for the HEALING of the nations."

Apparently, the nations (peoples) are still being saved.

It seems God's purpose of purging, correcting and purifying continues. Chapter 21 says the gates of the city will never be closed, and that the kings of the earth will come into the city. Chapter 22.15 says there are "dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murders and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie", that are still in need of salvation, they are not in some hellhole.

The gates stay open, there are sinners outside and there are leaves for their healing available, the implication is that salvation is still in process. These facts also seem to support ultimate reconciliation for all.

Of course, if you are preterist, this is symbolism for the New Covenant age, which I tend to agree with. But it is problem for most, believers in endless torment.
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