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Old 06-02-2007, 01:24 AM
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Hunger, poverty, etc ... they come to improve their family's life and feed their loved ones ... would you do it?

PP have you ever been to a third world country????
Daniel, do you think Mexico can do anything to provide better jobs for these people in their own country? Can Mexico do better than what it has so that these people don't have to come here to feed themselves? If so, are we enabling their bad government by winking at this illegal immigration issue?
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also if everyone that suppors illegals entering here from Mexico, would they support allowing a flood of illegals to enter here from the Phillipines and other such nations?

That last time I looked at my map, we don't border with the Phillipines....that was a silly post.
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Old 06-02-2007, 01:27 AM
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Children are often the casualties of illegal immigration.

Daniel, sigh, why do you use such rhetoric? I am not bloodthirsty. Do you realize how that sounds?
It's called a Logical Fallacy of an appeal to emotion or an argument based on emotion. It happens quite often and all it does is serve to divide Americans rather than address the issues with facts and open and honest dialogue
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That last time I looked at my map, we don't border with the Phillipines....that was a silly post.
I wasn't arguing geography. Should we allow them to flood us with cheap labor? You have a problem with that? Are you saying illegal immigration is OK as long as it is a bordering nation?
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NOT everything they do other Americans refuse to do. I would never pick strawberries but it was not too long ago that other Americans did construction and cooked and washed dishes and waited and did maid work. But because we have an influx of cheap labor those employers higher illegals and a lower wage

The MRS told me to inform you that this is the second time you misused the word....it is hire not higher.....
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The MRS told me to inform you that this is the second time you misused the word....it is hire not higher.....
But at least I spelled higher right.....
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Daniel, do you think Mexico can do anything to provide better jobs for these people in their own country? Can Mexico do better than what it has so that these people don't have to come here to feed themselves? If so, are we enabling their bad government by winking at this illegal immigration issue?
you act as if illegal immigration is exclusive to Mexicans....Mexico is the border remember....but it aint just Mexicans going over the border.
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I wasn't arguing geography. Should we allow them to flood us with cheap labor? You have a problem with that? Are you saying illegal immigration is OK as long as it is a bordering nation?

First throw your rock of objections and criticism at the apostles for breaking out of jail and the Holy Spirit for being their accomplice, then we'll discuss this further....
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Old 06-02-2007, 01:37 AM
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you act as if illegal immigration is exclusive to Mexicans....Mexico is the border remember....but it aint just Mexicans going over the border.
Not at all. But do you deny that there is a huge influx of illegals from Mexico more than any other nation?

Would anyone here mind if the millions and millions of Illegals in this nation were MOSTLY from the phillipines and not Mexico?
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Based on Census Bureau and other government data, the Pew Hispanic Center, a private research group in Washington, estimated the number of undocumented immigrants at 10.3 million as of last March, an increase of 23 percent from the 8.4 million estimate in 2000. More than 50 percent of that growth was attributable to Mexican nationals living illegally in the United States, the report said
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The proportion of the illegal immigrants who are Mexican has increased to nearly 70 percent from less than 60 percent, the INS said.
The question is, why is there such an increase? Are they more poor over there each year?

What has changed, if anything?
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Old 06-02-2007, 01:39 AM
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First throw your rock of objections and criticism at the apostles for breaking out of jail and the Holy Spirit for being their accomplice, then we'll discuss this further....
Huh? The Apostles were criminals according to the law. So why are you avoiding my question? Illegals are criminals according to OUR laws.
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