Are all things possible with God? - Page 10

Esaias · #91 07-26-2015, 01:10 AM

"I don't who God is, could be anything. I don't know what salvation is or how it is received or obtained, could be anything. But one thing is for sure: you Bible thumpers are wrong."

lol

Jfrog, all you are doing is parroting nihilist propaganda. First, all claims to Truth have to destroyed and replaced with universal doubt and skepticism. Then, a replacement Truth is inserted: The Bible is not the Word of God. ie Biblical Christianity is not correct.

The sad thing is you are a victim of this truth-wrecking soul destroying "philosophy" and don't even realize it. This relativism was DESIGNED INTENTIONALLY as an ideological weapon (a tool of psychological warfare) by socialists and humanists back in the 18th and 19th centuries, specifically unleashed on western, Christian society in order to effect a social change meaning the overthrow of Reason and any belief in objective truths. And all that, by design, as part of the ideological war against Christian civilization. The fruits of this brainwashing being visible now throughout society.

You are wasted and can't find your way home.

And it was by design. It was intentional. You are a casualty in a war you don't even know is taking place, and has been since before you were born.

What legacy will you leave the next generation? Do you have children? What will you leave them with? A worldview that has no solidity, no stability, no certainty? Do you have any idea the devastation that produces?

Does any of this even matter to you?

jfrog · #92 07-26-2015, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

"I don't who God is, could be anything. I don't know what salvation is or how it is received or obtained, could be anything. But one thing is for sure: you Bible thumpers are wrong."

Yea, that's typically how it goes. Ask what a person believes and when they answer honestly you take those words and make up something that they never said and tack that on the end and then you go on and on about that...

It's pretty easy to beat a strawman. In fact your better at it than most. Is that from practice?

jfrog · #93 07-26-2015, 01:23 AM

For anyone here, what would be so bad about admitting that you hope you are wrong about salvation?

thephnxman · #94 07-26-2015, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

For anyone here, what would be so bad about admitting that you hope you are wrong about salvation?

Hoping one is wrong does not make him right!

However, it might lead to the man SEARCHING for God. If one truly searches for God, he
MAY eventually find Him. And God is really not that hard to find...unless one is searching
to either please men, or prove men wrong. A person will search the wrong way, for the
wrong reason(s), and in the wrong places.

But if it is God that is calling you, then the scriptures will become alive:

"I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me
not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name."

good samaritan · #95 07-26-2015, 06:04 AM

To hope that I am wrong would be to wish to deny Jesus Christ and the sacrifice made for our redemption. I don't hope I am wrong, but I hope that all become right.

Evang.Benincasa · #96 07-26-2015, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

For anyone here, what would be so bad about admitting that you hope you are wrong about salvation?

Because for the simple reason that you are asking that we only pray about soteriology, but in fact it would encompass way more than that. Since we didn't have what we believe fall out of the sky like Hypnotoad, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. What you are asking is akin to us praying that we can sit on the coach and pray that God would give us a 2016 Lincoln Town Car with suicide doors and continental trunk, oh also 700 HP engine, with full LED lighting...with a mad sound system.

Now, that isn't God, that Santy Claus.

But I believe what you are asking is that we should pray that we are wrong about salvation because you would like to see more people go heaven. But while you are hoping for that you would also like to be extremely obnoxious while you are still living with us. Making up foolish scenarios not to be answered but in an attempt to show how we don't love souls because we won't pray for a Gospel of Inclusion. Well, hate to break it to you but most majority of religions (ancient ones) have certain criteria for its neophytes and devotees to adhere to and follow. That's just how they roll. So, tell you what since what Apostolics believe isn't your cup of tea go and start your own religion. Call it the First Temple of JFrog's Happy House of Inclusion. Where there is no criteria to meet, where the road is wide and the gates are flung open so that everyone from serial killers to players will be welcomed in with your amphibious claws.

But seriously, telling people that they have no love and yearning to save the lost because they won't pray to their God to remove a criteria is silly. To keep pounding the pulpit for someone to dance with you concerning your question is obnoxious, and will only earn you pot shots, so we can laugh and you can tell us you're just the pious victim. Don't know what to tell you Hoss, they discontinued the Lincoln Town Car, and I just had to live with that REALITY. Just like you have to deal with the REALITY of repentance, baptism in Jesus name, infilling of the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of SPEAKING WITH OTHER TONGUES.

jfrog · #97 07-26-2015, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by good samaritan

To hope that I am wrong would be to wish to deny Jesus Christ and the sacrifice made for our redemption. I don't hope I am wrong, but I hope that all become right.

How is hoping you are wrong about baptism and tongues being required for salvation equal to denying Jesus Christ and the sacrifice he made? I mean we know there are beliefs that others possess where Christ died for us and baptism and tongues are not required for salvation.

jfrog · #98 07-26-2015, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Because for the simple reason that you are asking that we only pray about soteriology, but in fact it would encompass way more than that. Since we didn't have what we believe fall out of the sky like Hypnotoad, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. What you are asking is akin to us praying that we can sit on the coach and pray that God would give us a 2016 Lincoln Town Car with suicide doors and continental trunk, oh also 700 HP engine, with full LED lighting...with a mad sound system.

Now, that isn't God, that Santy Claus.

But I believe what you are asking is that we should pray that we are wrong about salvation because you would like to see more people go heaven. But while you are hoping for that you would also like to be extremely obnoxious while you are still living with us. Making up foolish scenarios not to be answered but in an attempt to show how we don't love souls because we won't pray for a Gospel of Inclusion. Well, hate to break it to you but most majority of religions (ancient ones) have certain criteria for its neophytes and devotees to adhere to and follow. That's just how they roll. So, tell you what since what Apostolics believe isn't your cup of tea go and start your own religion. Call it the First Temple of JFrog's Happy House of Inclusion. Where there is no criteria to meet, where the road is wide and the gates are flung open so that everyone from serial killers to players will be welcomed in with your amphibious claws.

But seriously, telling people that they have no love and yearning to save the lost because they won't pray to their God to remove a criteria is silly. To keep pounding the pulpit for someone to dance with you concerning your question is obnoxious, and will only earn you pot shots, so we can laugh and you can tell us you're just the pious victim. Don't know what to tell you Hoss, they discontinued the Lincoln Town Car, and I just had to live with that REALITY. Just like you have to deal with the REALITY of repentance, baptism in Jesus name, infilling of the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of SPEAKING WITH OTHER TONGUES.

Right, praying or hoping you are wrong about your beliefs is exactly like praying to God for a nice worldly possession... Is it just me or are some of the analogies here just out there?

So, what is wrong about hoping you are wrong and misread something about salvation? And wouldn't it be better for souls if salvation didn't require tongues and baptism in Jesus name?

Evang.Benincasa · #99 07-26-2015, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Right, praying or hoping you are wrong about your beliefs is exactly like praying to God for a nice worldly possession... Is it just me or are some of the analogies here just out there?

So, what is wrong about hoping you are wrong and misread something about salvation? And wouldn't it be better for souls if salvation didn't require tongues and baptism in Jesus name?

But logically it couldn't stop at soteriology, that is what you just can't understand, or refuse to understand. Why are you so fixated with a baptism and spiritual utterance? Why just start at the beginning? Start with not having to believe for any deity? That is what Universalism teaches, that through the atonement of the cross all are saved whether they like it or not. So, there you have it, no need for anyone to pray that they are wrong about there religion because there are people who will bust hell wide open, but they should pray that they make their calling an election sure.

mfblume · #**100** 07-26-2015, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

That's good but not exactly what I suggested.

Don't just pray for correction. Believe you are right about salvation but hope and pray you are wrong for the sake of those your salvation condemns.

Pray I am wrong? Nope. Can't jive with that. Praying for correction is all I believe we need, which is what the Lord tells us to pray when He gave this instruction, "lead us not into temptation, but deliver me from evil."

Praying for us to be wrong? Think about it. We get our belief from the Word and yet we pray we are wrong in what we sincerely see the word telling us? That is like snubbing God's word. I know we may have interpreted it incorrectly. But to pray we are wrong is just wrong.