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Originally Posted by crakjak
I could accept the idea of "freewill" determining a persons final end, if every person had equal opportunity and access to the gospel. However, only the naive embrace the idea the everyone has every opportunity in their physical lives to come to Jesus.
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Think about those who never knew Christ for a second. I believe God is righteous and will deal with them, but that does not mean God is unfair if choice were the truth of the matter. WHO KNOWS what God will do with those who never heard of Christ? I think we are too presumptuous to say that we do know.
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It is very difficult to honestly consider UR thru the lens of the ingrained doctrine of "endless torment", but if you look at scripture from the view of an all knowing God as Creator, seeing the end as the beginning. Then read scripture that supports UR it is by far the most reasonable.
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That is irrelvant, again, though. God is going to do what He is going to do. But right now we need to focus on growing in the Lord and reaching the Lost. UR will simply causes us to loosen our grip on the need to reach the Lost!
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Most endless torment scriptures are hyperbolic language concerning temporal lives. What do we "choose this day"? Joshua was speaking to Israel concerning the very immediate, were they going to continue to go in circles in the desert or would they embrace God as provider and "get over this Jordan". We have heard all our lives of "rightly dividing the word of truth", but what was meant by most was to define the Bible thru the lens of preconceived interpretation.
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I am all against reading through perceptual grids. But still.. what is PRACTICAL?
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