The Effects of A Loud Shout | Raul Alvear Jr. :)

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I am so amazed what this forum has come to...Well I am an old time mother in Zion....Since a young child our son has has a ministry of praise. Though I may not be one to run the aisles much I believe in worship with all my heart. I have lived long enough to know God has different ways of using different people. My husband is an encourager...he seldom gets "worked up"...but he encourages people in his sermons. If I have to say anything it is usually something about missions for that is my call....I love to tell stories of how God has moved on the mission field and many pastor's ask me to come and share my stories with their churches. Each one has a purpose in life and we must live our purpose. Our son in the jungle is a modern day apostle....

We have one son "the rough and tough kind...." he pastors and he has a motorcycle group of brothers that go out and evangelize!

So beloved we are all different....God uses each one of us in different ways according to the need in the body...I prefer a teaching service over a shouting service but both are needful!

I like slow songs...others like fast songs....We need each one in the body of Christ...and we need those angels that have been singing holy trillions of years to continue singing Holy....

I loved all the verses you posted... what a wonderful collection of praise to the Lord! And I agree, it does take all kinds to worship the Lord... and if you are not a loud worshiper, I don't think that lowers you in the eyes of God, or if you are a quiet worshiper, but worshiping the Lord with all your heart... that doesn't change how God receives your worship either... whatever you do, worship Him in spirit and in truth, for the Father seeketh such to worship Him.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Psalms 98:4
Shout joyfully to the LORD, all the earth; Break forth and sing for joy and sing praises.

Psalms 35:27
Let them shout for joy and rejoice, who favor my vindication; And let them say continually, "The LORD be magnified, Who delights in the prosperity of His servant."

Psalms 66:1-2
Shout joyfully to God, all the earth; Sing the glory of His name; Make His praise glorious.

Leviticus 9:24
Then fire came out from before the LORD and consumed the burnt offering and the portions of fat on the altar; and when all the people saw it, they shouted and fell on their faces.

Joshua 6:20
So the people shouted, and priests blew the trumpets; and when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, the people shouted with a great shout and the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight ahead, and they took the city.

2 Samuel 6:15
So David and all the house of Israel were bringing up the ark of the LORD with shouting and the sound of the trumpet.

1 Chronicles 15:28
Thus all Israel brought up the ark of the covenant of the LORD with shouting, and with sound of the horn, with trumpets, with loud-sounding cymbals, with harps and lyres.

2 Chronicles 13:15
Then the men of Judah raised a war cry, and when the men of Judah raised the war cry, then it was that God routed Jeroboam and all Israel before Abijah and Judah.

2 Chronicles 15:14
Moreover, they made an oath to the LORD with a loud voice, with shouting, with trumpets and with horns.

Ezra 3:11
They sang, praising and giving thanks to the LORD, saying, "For He is good, for His lovingkindness is upon Israel forever." And all the people shouted with a great shout when they praised the LORD because the foundation of the house of the LORD was laid.

Psalms 5:11
But let all who take refuge in You be glad, Let them ever sing for joy; And may You shelter them, That those who love Your name may exult in You.

Psalms 47:1
O clap your hands, all peoples; Shout to God with the voice of joy.

Isaiah 12:6
Cry aloud and shout for joy, O inhabitant of Zion, For great in your midst is the Holy One of Israel.

Zephaniah 3:14
Shout for joy, O daughter of Zion! Shout in triumph, O Israel! Rejoice and exult with all your heart, O daughter of Jerusalem!

Zechariah 9:9
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout in triumph, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your king is coming to you; He is just and endowed with salvation, Humble, and mounted on a donkey, Even on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

Psalms 33:3
Sing to Him a new song; Play skillfully with a shout of joy.

Psalms 42:4
These things I remember and I pour out my soul within me For I used to go along with the throng and lead them in procession to the house of God, With the voice of joy and thanksgiving, a multitude keeping festival.

Psalms 81:1
Sing for joy to God our strength; Shout joyfully to the God of Jacob.

Psalms 95:1
O come, let us sing for joy to the LORD, Let us shout joyfully to the rock of our salvation.

Psalms 100:1
Shout joyfully to the LORD, all the earth.

Psalms 118:15
The sound of joyful shouting and salvation is in the tents of the righteous; The right hand of the LORD does valiantly.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

I loved all the verses you posted... what a wonderful collection of praise to the Lord! And I agree, it does take all kinds to worship the Lord... and if you are not a loud worshiper, I don't think that lowers you in the eyes of God, or if you are a quiet worshiper, but worshiping the Lord with all your heart... that doesn't change how God receives your worship either... whatever you do, worship Him in spirit and in truth, for the Father seeketh such to worship Him.

[shag]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Folks get excited about what is important to them. Some it is pig skins others it is Jesus. Sister Alvear the Bible don't mean much to many.

I am a bit of a fan of spicy pork rines...guilty.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by shag

Not arguing your point, but on that subject, according to scripture(1?) in the ot God inhabited the praises of his people Israel, yet in the nt God inhabits His people. To me, to say "God shows up when we praise him is a bit conflicting, seeing he has already shown up and resides in us if we are filled w His spirit.

After hearing multiple times from the pulpit "the bible says God inhabits the praise of His people", I finally looked it up to verify that's what it says...it doesn't really say that...and the focus of that verse is actually Gods holiness and not so much "inhabiting Israel's praise."

But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel. - Psalm 22:3

The verse declares that God, who inhabits the praises of his people, is holy.

The word inhabits means (technically) to sit down. The idea is not that God "shows up when people praise him" (that is actually expressed elsewhere). Rather the idea is that God is enthroned in the praises of his people. Which is obvious - our praises exalt him and declare that he is King. More importantly, the scriptures depict the throne of God as surrounded by celestial beings giving eternal, on going praise and worship. From a practical standpoint, this means when we praise God WE ENTER THE THRONEROOM and participate in the heavenly worship. ALL WORSHIP IS FOR OUR PRACTICAL BENEFIT. God has declared he has no need of any acts of worship. Therefore worship is a necessity due to our nature. It changes us, enabling us to get on God's page and into HIS "state of mind" if you will.

The distinction between inhabiting the praises of his people vs inhabiting Israel is one of perspective. More importantly, no verse or passage teaches "under the old covenant God dwelt in the people's praises, but under the new covenant he dwells in the people themselves." The supposed contrast (as stated) does not scripturally exist. The verse is not referring to any individual Israelite but to the covenant nation as a whole.

And that verse has always been, and always be, true.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Folks get excited about what is important to them. Some it is pig skins others it is Jesus. Sister Alvear the Bible don't mean much to many.

well, Grace doesn't seem to mean much to many others. If you had to pick one, which would it be?

[J.A. Perez]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, Grace doesn't seem to mean much to many others. If you had to pick one, which would it be?

When we get to heaven by His grace, we won't have that choice. We will praise him without hindrance!

And everyone will be loud over there.

As a matter of fact I can't wait to grab Sister Flounnie Webb by the hand and run the streets of Gold !

[J.A. Perez]

When my wife and I taught Mary Brown and Carl Geller Bible Study they died Acts 2:38 saved. Both within one year of each other. Carl was 81 and Marry was 85, brother and sister.

When I get there.
They are going to have brand-new bodies, I'm going to find them both. And we're going to shout on the hills of Glory!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by J.A. Perez

When we get to heaven by His grace, we won't have that choice. We will praise him without hindrance!

And everyone will be loud over there.

As a matter of fact I can't wait to grab Sister Flounnie Webb by the hand and run the streets of Gold !

I don't believe anyone here doubts that or is against a sincere worshiper making noise.

I view praise and worship in the same way I do someone who feels to praise in the dance. Those that do not choose to dance should not be made to feel less spiritual, because there are other methods of praise that are just as effective.

In one particular service, a person got out of their pew and ran around the church. The preacher said, "There is your TRUE worshiper!!!", as though no one else in the room qualified.

There is no doubt the exuberant person running the aisles was sincere in his worship, however, the "many" other people with hands raised and tears streaming down their faces were also sincere. A person's response is going to vary according to his personality. I heard a pastor, once say, "If you can't raise your voice, you need to change your personality."

It is a shame to qualify a person's relationship with God on the volume of their voice - is the point.

"My foot standeth in an even place; in the congregation will I bless/barak (cause to kneel) the Lord (Psalm 16:12)

[Pressing-On]

"Thus will I bless (to kneel) thee while I live: I will lift up my hands in thy name."
Psalm 63:4

"Lift up your hands in the sanctuary, and bless (to kneel) the Lord." Psalm 134:2

"And Solomon stood before the altar of the Lord in the presence of all the congregation of Israel, and spread forth his hands toward heaven:" I Kings 8:22

"I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting." I Timothy 2:8