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10-06-2015, 09:20 AM
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Re: The Church I Went To Yesterday...
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Originally Posted by Disciple4life
Jermyn Davidson,
Regardless of what happens in the future, it sounds like you had a good service.
I praise and thank God for that blessing!
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I do too.
The Lord is so merciful and kind to me and I'll never know why.
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10-06-2015, 02:56 PM
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Re: The Church I Went To Yesterday...
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But is a baby not a baby until the baby breaks from the womb? Does LIFE begin at conception, birth, somewhere in between?
A literal "Saved By Grace Through Faith" message fits perfectly with the Bible, Christian history and the thought of human life beginning at conception.
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While it's natural and normative for a baby to cry out once it's free from the womb, I don't think it's a very good metaphor for being born of the Spirit. There are other ways to determine if the baby is alive, and all of those ways are detectable and discernible before the birth (e.g. heart beat, movement, and etc.).
In the womb, all the essential parts of the baby's anatomy that allows it to cry when it's first born are intact and functioning before it's born (lungs, brain, larnyx, mouth, and etc.).
The only difference is that the baby didn't have the ability to use those essential parts of its anatomy to cry out until it was outside of the womb.
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Things that make you go hmmmm.
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10-06-2015, 06:09 PM
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Re: The Church I Went To Yesterday...
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Sometimes, in some black congregations, the Pastor is so unapproachable, not necessarily because he isn't friendly, but because there are several layers of people you have to go through to get to him and they feel it is their job to keep the petty stuff (people with questions) away from the Pastor.
To their defense, there are a lot of nutjobs and other time wasters that visit a church and the FIRST thing they want to do is talk to the Pastor. They feel it is their right to take up his time, sap him of all his energy, and IF they join, they're around for a few months only to leave the church OFFENDED because the Pastor didn't have ENOUGH time for them or so-and-so offended them or they didn't agree with this or that or whatever it is that Brother or Sister Nutjob can come up with in the moment.
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I was baptized in a Black Church. The Pastor was very approachable to me. Even after I left the Church 3 times. We were friends for 32 years until he died.
Point? At least give him a try.
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10-06-2015, 09:09 PM
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Re: The Church I Went To Yesterday...
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It was a gut-wrenching and heart-breaking ordeal for me personally to leave the last Apostolic church where I was a member. It would be stupid to put myself and others throught that again-- and a big waste of time.
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Oh, ok. I didn't realize it was a large church. We have the same issue. We now run 1700-1900 people per weekend so it is impossible for the Sr. Pastor to know and meet with each and every one of them. We do have a wonderful team of pastors, staff, and volunteers to do that though. I used to go to lunch with my pastor but now that the church is so big and I know he is pulled a lot of different directions I don't any more. We do talk every weekend privately before service for a few minutes and maintain our relationship that way.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-07-2015, 06:58 AM
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Re: The Church I Went To Yesterday...
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I was baptized in a Black Church. The Pastor was very approachable to me. Even after I left the Church 3 times. We were friends for 32 years until he died.
Point? At least give him a try.
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Michael,
I gave the Pastor of this church a call and left a voice mail message for him. Let's see what happens.
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10-08-2015, 12:10 PM
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Re: The Church I Went To Yesterday...
Keep us posted, JD. Praying the Lord will lead you to a place where you can worship, and draw closer to Him.
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10-08-2015, 07:11 PM
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Re: The Church I Went To Yesterday...
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Keep us posted, JD. Praying the Lord will lead you to a place where you can worship, and draw closer to Him.
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I am thinking that German is a rolling stone so that place may not exist! I think he has lived more places in five years than I have in a lifetime! LOL
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-09-2015, 09:41 AM
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Re: The Church I Went To Yesterday...
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I am thinking that German is a rolling stone so that place may not exist! I think he has lived more places in five years than I have in a lifetime! LOL
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LOL!
Actually, that's not the case. I lived at my last address for the last 5 or 6 years and was a participating member of 2 churches for my entire time at that address.
However, I have just recently moved to an entirely different part of the country. Job promotion and relocation.
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10-09-2015, 01:28 PM
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Re: The Church I Went To Yesterday...
JD - just wait for wintertime!!! You will be wishing for some Florida sunshine!!
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10-09-2015, 01:50 PM
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Re: The Church I Went To Yesterday...
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JD - just wait for wintertime!!! You will be wishing for some Florida sunshine!!
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I already am missing Florida sorely.
If I were to move back to Florida, I am thinking I'd go to St. Pete or somewhere else further south and west. I didn't visit that part of the state enough.
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