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Old 06-02-2007, 11:53 PM
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Assumption? How can we pay back anything for sins? WE have to pay back, the bible said in that parable. Not God. When we forfeit His blood's redemption, WE pay back what WE can pay. The mercy shown depicts the opportunity by the blood of the cross. That is the context of your reference. Your reference did not say UNTIL GOD PAYS BACK, but the sinner. And there is no way we can pay that. That is not assumption. What can replace the blood of Jesus that WE can pay back, for surely we forfeit the blood when we choose to pay what WE can pay?

Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. To reject Christ's mercy and forgiveness and to be left with the need of paying back the debt OURSELVES, which is the context of the whole reference, there is no remedy.
"His master delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all. So My Father also will do to you" (Matt. 18.35).

"You will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny" (Matt. 5:26).

Does "till" and "until" support the concept of and unending hell or annihilation? Don't forget, "So will My Father also will do to you."


I am not suggesting that a person can be save w/o the blood? I presented these verses to show that Jesus, while indicating a "just recompense" for our debts did not preach eternal torment. The "till" and "until" are certainly not indicative of "endless."

Of course, this is a parable, but we should be able to draw some truths from Jesus' parables. And in this one his presents a "measurable punishment", surely you could conceded this clear fact. There no basis at all to assume "endless" from this story.
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