Some standing here

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shag

Sean, I realize the Holyghost is none other than the spirit of Jesus Christ residing in the nt born again disciple. Duh.

I realize he was unrecognized post resurrection when they walked with him. Duh.

I also realize that you absolutely refused to respond to the questions in my post, and respond in an honest manner, with yourself and with me.

I'll try not continue to waste our time on this.

Waste of time with Sean. Short memory problem. He once again forgets if you take Revelation 1 literally then churches are turned into candlesticks and angels are turned into stars. He forgot all that. And in a week he'll forget again.

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by Sean

My point is I believe EXACTLY the description of our Lord Jesus as depicted in Rev. 19, to the letter.

To try to make it say something other than we read is weakening the description of His great power imposed upon the Gentiles of planet earth.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and HE TREADETH THE WINEPRESS of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

So...He will be stomping in a wine press?
Like standing it in and stomping around in a wine press?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Bowas

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and HE TREADETH THE WINEPRESS of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

So...He will be stomping in a wine press?
Like standing it in and stomping around in a wine press?

Are you attempting to weaken, and denegrate the description of the wrath of God in the verse Bowas?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Waste of time with Sean. Short memory problem. He once again forgets if you take Revelation 1 literally then churches are turned into candlesticks and angels are turned into stars. He forgot all that. And in a week he'll forget again.

Oh yeah Mike, all along you have told folks that Rev. 1:1 was about metaphors.

You misled them....

It is about signs.

Signs are not metaphors.

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by Sean

Are you attempting to weaken, and denegrate the description of the wrath of God in the verse Bowas?

What kind of a question is that? You say it is a literal sword and you said, "My point is I believe EXACTLY the description of our Lord Jesus as depicted in Rev. 19, to the letter."

I attempt to weaken nothing but ask for your clarification on the winepress. You say it is a literal sword, so I want your literal description of the winepress.

You may not realize it Sean, but you have no consistent standard by which you measure your interpretations which is in danger of private interpretations which the Apostles knew not about.

So is the winepress a winepress or represent something other than a winepress, and how might you make that determination?

Thank you for your reply.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Bowas

What kind of a question is that? You say it is a literal sword and you said, "My point is I believe EXACTLY the description of our Lord Jesus as depicted in Rev. 19, to the letter."

I attempt to weaken nothing but ask for your clarification on the winepress. You say it is a literal sword, so I want your literal description of the winepress.

You may not realize it Sean, but you have no consistent standard by which you measure your interpretations which is in danger of private interpretations which the Apostles knew not about.

So is the winepress a winepress or represent something other than a winepress, and how might you make that determination?

Thank you for your reply.

C'mon Bowas, the wine press crushes grapes to smitherines....

Jesus crushes sinners to smitherines when He returns(with a sword)....

You made fun of the analogy of God's wrath in the Book of Revelation.....

Cheap shot at the power/judgement of God, bro.

[Sean]

All because of preterism, Bowas.(is it really worth it?)

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by Sean

C'mon Bowas, the wine press crushes grapes to smitherines....

Jesus crushes sinners to smitherines when He returns(with a sword)....

You made fun of the analogy of God's wrath in the Book of Revelation.....

Cheap shot at the power/judgement of God, bro.

Either you are missing my point, or intentionally ignoring it.
Let me put it in simpler terms.
According to the scripture you presented, is He going to put the sinners in a winepress and stomp on them?

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and HE TREADETH THE WINEPRESS of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Bowas

Either you are missing my point, or intentionally ignoring it.
Let me put it in simpler terms.
According to the scripture you presented, is He going to put the sinners in a winepress and stomp on them?

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and HE TREADETH THE WINEPRESS of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

His wrath is compared to a winepress, Bowas, and unrighteous man are compared to the grapes being stomped under the pressers feet..

Did you see your previous posts, and how you denegrated the verses with sarcasm?

Your preterist ideas now give you the "liberty" to attack and denegrate the verses to the point that a minor analogy in a verse, becomes MASS metaphors.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Bowas View Post
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and HE TREADETH THE WINEPRESS of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

So...He will be stomping in a wine press?
Like standing it in and stomping around in a wine press?







Bowas, I betcha that you never ridiculed verses like this before you became a preterist.

You are now the Bibles' biggest critic!

Look what they did to you bro.(all because you want it to mean something else)