The dawg-ma of trinity is = to Preterism - Page 6

thephnxman · #51 10-22-2015, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by houston

I don't believe anyones ministry is validated until they cast out demons.

Seriously?

From themselves, or someone else?

houston · #52 10-22-2015, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

you know it baffles me that folk can be so rigid about events that are in the future.

no one can say with any certainty what is or is not going to happen at some undetermined date in the future. its just not possible

to get so rigid about this kind of thing. To suggest some eschatological viewpoint is heretical or will cause damnation for believing it just blows my mind.

Even to determine fellowship based on what one thinks might happen in the future is just nuts to me.

Because you can't exegete, no one can exegete. HAHAHAHA

thephnxman · #53 10-22-2015, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

FOlks, it finally hit me. We're dealing with eschatological BIGOTS.
Read what BIGOT is correctly defined as in the dictionary.
"a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people,"
When a person has not done what the Bereans did by looking at the bible to see if the bible taught what they are hearing someone teach, but simply shut it out because it's not what they were ever taught, they are doctrinal bigots. The bible says a person who does not search out a matter before they judge it is considered commits folly, and folly is what fools do. Prov 18:13.
So, all these people who ONLY LOOK TO SEE FAULT in a an eschatological they were not taught, instead of checking the bible and giving it a chance in case it's something they SHOULD believe, too, are eschatological bigots.

Beloved, I saw it coming for awhile...but now it's obvious. You have finally put
one of your feet on the ground of preterism, but your other foot is still kind of
dangling on the fence from your knee...barely.

The only thing that true believers should REALLY agree on is the gospel. Every-
thing hinges on that. Next would be the Ministry: for it is the hand of God; it is
used to guide the flock, or to correct it. Together, the Ministry is called to perféct,
to teach the gospel, and to edify the Church.

Should we have fellowship with those that preach AGAINST the gospel? (Not
that preterists, as a whole, are against the gospel or have another gospel: but
some do.) Some have forsaken the gospel that you and I embrace. Should
we have fellowship with them? Of course not: but we should endeavor to bring
all men to the faith...and some to REGAIN the faith, if at all possible.

Does our gospel rest on fulfilled prophecies? Or do fulfilled prophecies STAND
on the gospel that saves?

"..and having done all...stand."

mfblume · #54 10-22-2015, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thephnxman

Beloved, I saw it coming for awhile...but now it's obvious. You have finally put
one of your feet on the ground of preterism, but your other foot is still kind of
dangling on the fence from your knee...barely.

I think you got me totally wrong. lol. Let me explain.

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The only thing that true believers should REALLY agree on is the gospel.

I agree.

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Every-
thing hinges on that. Next would be the Ministry: for it is the hand of God; it is
used to guide the flock, or to correct it. Together, the Ministry is called to perféct,
to teach the gospel, and to edify the Church.

I agree.

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Should we have fellowship with those that preach AGAINST the gospel? (Not
that preterists, as a whole, are against the gospel or have another gospel: but
some do.) Some have forsaken the gospel that you and I embrace. Should
we have fellowship with them? Of course not: but we should endeavor to bring
all men to the faith...and some to REGAIN the faith, if at all possible.

Right.

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Does our gospel rest on fulfilled prophecies? Or do fulfilled prophecies STAND
on the gospel that saves?

"..and having done all...stand."

My point has nothing to do with whether or not we should fellowship around the gospel. It simply has to do with folks who do not actually know what they're talking about when it comes to speaking against a viewpoint of biblical eschatology. Our views on eschatology should not determine our fellowship. So, not sure why you think I would believe otherwise.

So how in the world did you get the idea I believe we should fellowship over prophecy and not the gospel? I simply was saying that people who criticize preterism, but have not even honestly checked it out, are bigots. That's all. That has nothing to do with fellowshiping people based on views of prophecy.

mfblume · #55 10-22-2015, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

Even to determine fellowship based on what one thinks might happen in the future is just nuts to me.

Exactly.

mfblume · #56 10-22-2015, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

There is none here that I dislike
, I only dislike the devil. Hang ten!

But if you dislike a VIEWPOINT when you have not given it a chance by sincerely considering it while searching the scripture to see if it is so, that is another story.

mfblume · #57 10-22-2015, 08:42 PM

thephnxman, Just to be clear to you. I in no way, shape or form believe that one must agree on eschatology to fellowship, within reason. Acts 2:38 and service to God and the work of the cross are the basis of fellowship. Preterism has no where near the degree of importance for fellowship as does Acts 2:38, etc.

francis · #58 10-23-2015, 05:08 PM

Unless a soul "receives a love of The TRUTH they can not be saved" from their own self ("I", ego, id, pride) life! (II Thessalonians 2:10-13)

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogs...uth-to-be.html

For TRUTH IS! and simply that which is not of The TRUTH, IS NOT.......

Sadly, the multitudes of worldly and/or religious ones but serve time in the prison that is this world, for they are bound in the chains of "strong delusion" as they follow "the father of lies" along that "broad way to destruction" and damnation! (John 7:7, I John 2:15-17; 5:19, James 1:27; 4:4, Matthew 7:13)

"Come out from among them and be separate"! (II Corinthians 6:17)

Evang.Benincasa · #59 10-23-2015, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

FOlks, it finally hit me. We're dealing with eschatological BIGOTS.

Read what BIGOT is correctly defined as in the dictionary.

"a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people,"

When a person has not done what the Bereans did by looking at the bible to see if the bible taught what they are hearing someone teach, but simply shut it out because it's not what they were ever taught, they are doctrinal bigots. The bible says a person who does not search out a matter before they judge it is considered commits folly, and folly is what fools do. Prov 18:13.

So, all these people who ONLY LOOK TO SEE FAULT in a an eschatological they were not taught, instead of checking the bible and giving it a chance in case it's something they SHOULD believe, too, are eschatological bigots.

Evang.Benincasa · #60 10-23-2015, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

FOlks, it finally hit me. We're dealing with eschatological BIGOTS.

Read what BIGOT is correctly defined as in the dictionary.

"a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people,"

When a person has not done what the Bereans did by looking at the bible to see if the bible taught what they are hearing someone teach, but simply shut it out because it's not what they were ever taught, they are doctrinal bigots. The bible says a person who does not search out a matter before they judge it is considered commits folly, and folly is what fools do. Prov 18:13.

So, all these people who ONLY LOOK TO SEE FAULT in a an eschatological they were not taught, instead of checking the bible and giving it a chance in case it's something they SHOULD believe, too, are eschatological bigots.