Some standing here

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

Sean you don't even know what preterist think this verse is speaking about.
What is most telling, is you think this paltry group of people are an ensign of God to the world. A group of people that in 70 +- years have not even taken control of 1/3 of the land you say is promised them by God, not counting Jerusalem. The only thing they have is a UN charter declaring them a nation.
If this was an ensign of God then why are not the rest of the verses in Isaiah 11, not being fulfilled?
sa 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Isa 11:13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.
Isa 11:14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them.
Isa 11:15 And the LORD shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod.
Isa 11:16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.

Now I don't expect Sean to read this through, as usual, there are too many verses for his mind to keep straight. And this post is too long for him. But the fact is that two times in the history of the nation of Israel were they united as a complete nation. Under the Davidic dynasty, under David and Solomon, and when the nation returned from captivity till the time of Christ.

And this prophecy was declared by Isaiah during the Babylonian captivity. Making it fulfilled with the return from said captivity. It is history!

Loren, you have bumped your head if you think that destitute and dominated Israel, after the captivity with Babylon, ever controlled ANYTHING in the region.

Read the verse and look at history. They went from Babylonian rule, to Medo-Persian rule, to Grecian rule, to Roman rule.

Thank you for posting the portion of the verse. You are helping me explain future prophecy in detail