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10-30-2015, 07:10 PM
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Loren Adkins
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by Sean
Get off of it Loren, Jesus Himself will build the future Temple.
You live in the past you PRETERIST!!!...LOL
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Give me one scripture that says Jesus builds a physical temple. So far you have not done that.
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10-30-2015, 07:21 PM
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Loren Adkins
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Show where Jesus said that He would reinstate a future temple and offer animal sacrifices?
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Originally Posted by Sean
It all starts here...
Ezekiel 40King James Version (KJV)
40 In the five and twentieth year of our captivity, in the beginning of the year, in the tenth day of the month, in the fourteenth year after that the city was smitten, in the selfsame day the hand of the Lord was upon me, and brought me thither.
2 In the visions of God brought he me into the land of Israel, and set me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the south.
3 And he brought me thither, and, behold, there was a man, whose appearance was like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate.
4 And the man said unto me, Son of man, behold with thine eyes, and hear with thine ears, and set thine heart upon all that I shall shew thee; for to the intent that I might shew them unto thee art thou brought hither: declare all that thou seest to the house of Israel.
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These four verses refute your thinking, God is giving Ezekiel the promise of their return to their home land, as this prophecy was given while they were still in captivity.
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Ezekiel 43King James Version (KJV)
21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.
22 And on the second day thou shalt offer a kid of the goats without blemish for a sin offering; and they shall cleanse the altar, as they did cleanse it with the bullock.
23 When thou hast made an end of cleansing it, thou shalt offer a young bullock without blemish, and a ram out of the flock without blemish.
24 And thou shalt offer them before the Lord, and the priests shall cast salt upon them, and they shall offer them up for a burnt offering unto the Lord.
25 Seven days shalt thou prepare every day a goat for a sin offering: they shall also prepare a young bullock, and a ram out of the flock, without blemish.
26 Seven days shall they purge the altar and purify it; and they shall consecrate themselves.
27 And when these days are expired, it shall be, that upon the eighth day, and so forward, the priests shall make your burnt offerings upon the altar, and your peace offerings; and I will accept you, saith the Lord God.
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Note the last verse here, God in all this was telling them that is they return to him and the way he has set forth he will accept them. This is not some prophecy of some future time after the cross. It is speaking of the return from captivity.
And no where in this doe it imply that God will build the temple!
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10-30-2015, 07:45 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer
These four verses refute your thinking, God is giving Ezekiel the promise of their return to their home land, as this prophecy was given while they were still in captivity.
Note the last verse here, God in all this was telling them that is they return to him and the way he has set forth he will accept them. This is not some prophecy of some future time after the cross. It is speaking of the return from captivity.
And no where in this doe it imply that God will build the temple!
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That was simply painlessly easy for you to explain. It is so sad that some people can't see its simplicity.
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10-30-2015, 07:52 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer
Give me one scripture that says Jesus builds a physical temple. So far you have not done that.
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Where does Jesus prepare His followers, disciples, and apostles for a future physical rebuilt temple which He Himself would reconstruct? In Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 Jesus points out the signs leading up to His return which revolve around the destruction of the temple He was just shown by His apostles, Peter, James, Andrew, and John. At no time does Jesus tell them that He would rebuild a stone structure to reintroduce animal sacrifices or anything else. Jesus does make this statement in John 2:19 "destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." The Rabbinical leadership took Jesus' words to mean a physical temple, just like some religious Talmudists do today?
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10-30-2015, 08:43 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by Sean
Get off of it Loren, Jesus Himself will build the future Temple.
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Wow.
With that in mind, how do u feel you would've reacted standing there at Stephens martyr in Acts 7? Would you have said, "Stephen you got it all wrong when u say God doesn't dwell any more in temples made with hands", "cause Jesus is going to build one made with hands! Didn't he tell you that?!!"
Also, I'm still curious how u can claim there was a coming of the son of man AS TONGUES in Acts 2,( invisible in body), and yet point fingers at fulfilled eschatlogists for believing in a non visible ad70 coming to judge the generation that killed Him and the prophets?
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10-30-2015, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by shag
Wow.
With that in mind, how do u feel you would've reacted standing there at Stephens martyr in Acts 7? Would you have said, "Stephen you got it all wrong when u say God doesn't dwell any more in temples made with hands", "cause Jesus is going to build one made with hands! Didn't he tell you that?!!"
Also, I'm still curious how u can claim there was a coming of the son of man AS TONGUES in Acts 2,( invisible in body), and yet point fingers at fulfilled eschatlogists for believing in a non visible ad70 coming to judge the generation that killed Him and the prophets?
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Such are eschatologically reprobate. Nothing can get through to this sort. It's casting pearls beneath their feet when we should cast crowns to Jesus' feet.
Lord, forgive me.
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10-30-2015, 09:10 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by shag
Wow.
With that in mind, how do u feel you would've reacted standing there at Stephens martyr in Acts 7? Would you have said, "Stephen you got it all wrong when u say God doesn't dwell any more in temples made with hands", "cause Jesus is going to build one made with hands! Didn't he tell you that?!!"
Also, I'm still curious how u can claim there was a coming of the son of man AS TONGUES in Acts 2,( invisible in body), and yet point fingers at fulfilled eschatlogists for believing in a non visible ad70 coming to judge the generation that killed Him and the prophets?
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Your Kung Fu is very good.
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10-30-2015, 09:11 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Such are eschatologically reprobate. Nothing can get through to this sort. It's casting pearls beneath their feet when we should cast crowns to Jesus' feet.
Lord, forgive me.
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You put that well.
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10-30-2015, 09:20 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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10-30-2015, 09:42 PM
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Re: Some standing here
Hey did JoReba eat Sean?
Where is did he go?
He must be Google-ing a rebuttal.
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