Some standing here

[Sean]

I have proven ALL of you clowns wrong for over 2 years....

I post ALL of the passages, and simply watch you clowns attack the literal meanings of these passages like wolves....

That is my overview of debating preterists!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

I have proven ALL of you clowns wrong for over 2 years....

I post ALL of the passages, and simply watch you clowns attack the literal meanings of these passages like wolves....

That is my overview of debating preterists!

Sean, all you have proven is that you are an unstable individual who is easily angered. Pastors must spot you a mile off, and kindly direct you to the door.
You lie like no one I have ever posted with since Faith Child days. Just shows how you have no self respect for yourself that you can get yourself so worked up where you will misrepresent every single poster who dares to oppose you.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Sean

All O.T. prophecies, CONCERNING Christ were fulfilled!

Wow
Zech 6:12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

Sure sound like it is speaking of Christ to me.

Sean I don't know how to respond to you anymore. You are so far out in left field you have left the field.
Jesus did not say some of the law and prophets speak of him he said ALL the Law and prophets speak of him. He did not say some of the law and prophets were till John, he said ALL the law and prophets were to John.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

Wow
Zech 6:12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

Sure sound like it is speaking of Christ to me.

Sean I don't know how to respond to you anymore. You are so far out in left field you have left the field.
Jesus did not say some of the law and prophets speak of him he said ALL the Law and prophets speak of him. He did not say some of the law and prophets were till John, he said ALL the law and prophets were to John.

All O.T. prophecy was FULFILLED in Christ????????

Loren, respectfully, do you think this happened?????.....

Zechariah 14
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.

11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.

14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.

15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Holiness Unto The Lord; and the pots in the Lord's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.

21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.


Loren when did this happen?????

[Sean]

Loren, when did this happen....



Ezekiel 38

38 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,

3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.

8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?

14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord God; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?

15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:

16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.

17 Thus saith the Lord God; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?

18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord God, that my fury shall come up in my face.

19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.

21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man's sword shall be against his brother.

22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the Lord.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Sean

I have proven ALL of you clowns wrong for over 2 years....

I post ALL of the passages, and simply watch you clowns attack the literal meanings of these passages like wolves....

That is my overview of debating preterists!

You are deluded if that is what you think, as long as there is a rebuttal to what you present you have not proven anything.

WOW

[Sean]

Loren, wake up!

No daydreaming preterist imaginations now....you were ASLEEP!

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

I have proven ALL of you clowns wrong for over 2 years....

I post ALL of the passages, and simply watch you clowns attack the literal meanings of these passages like wolves....

That is my overview of debating preterists!

Yes, Loren, this is EXACTLY what I have observed!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

Yes, Loren, this is EXACTLY what I have observed!

Sean, your doctrine is about handing out the worst beatings possible. We have seen that in the eschatology section, and when we have discussed Bible translations. You will lie, misrepresent, and post all sorts of nonsense. You throw chapters of scripture up with your red fonts but when we challenge you, or ask you to answer our questions you have a total melt down. It is because you have it in your head that God is brutal, and therefore you will stop at nothing to be just as brutal. Answer my questions? No, never, you get bent out of shape, and then I have nothing else to do but make fun of you, because you are throwing a tantrum. Why when we first met I thought you were a little boy secretly using his mother's computer? Because YOU act that way. Man up, go find a place to pray and find Jesus Christ, this whole dog and pony show of your's is getting really old. It isn't even funny anymore. Because I am totally convinced you are one sick dude. You need help and it can only come from above.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

You are deluded if that is what you think, as long as there is a rebuttal to what you present you have not proven anything.

WOW

Sean has a cognitive dissonance that is far off the charts.