Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine - Page 39

shazeep · #**381** 11-04-2015, 07:18 AM

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Dont sweat it bro. I have the exact truth. It will be just fine.

um...ya. There is a comment to be made about fooling oneself, and prolly pride too, in here somewhere...but i see that your mind is closed to this right now.

Sean · #**382** 11-04-2015, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

um...ya. There is a comment to be made about fooling oneself, and prolly pride too, in here somewhere...but i see that your mind is closed to this right now.

Pride is not the same as confidence, bro.

shazeep · #**383** 11-04-2015, 08:01 AM

enlightenment is said to be the repudiation of everything we think we know; a destructive process, that leaves marks and scars, and cracks upon a vessel, if you will, that are reflected in replies, that others can see. Who is not familiar with the phenomenon of being blind to themselves, but able to assess the state of another vessel, verifiable by the mutual terminology used to describe that vessel, like when two people discuss a third.

So there is a sense in which we cannot see ourselves, but only others; and this can be ignored, or taken advantage of. It is never a bad idea to contemplate statements made by others about oneself rather than dismissing them, especially when they come in concert. No matter how unkind on the surface.

This is like my third or fourth attempt at an answer here, and the point that I'd really like to get across is that when revelation comes to a "perfect" vessel--like a storm to a house built on sand--there is a shattering that occurs, rather than just losing a little polish, and maybe a ding or two. Now, i guess no one really wants to apply this to themselves, but it applies to everyone.

So when you are shattered, and have descended into lawlessness, and can't figure out why, remember that several people indicated this to you, and there is a way out. I guess it happens to most everyone who seeks God, and i don't know how someone in your extremely fragile position could practically lessen the blow. I don't know if i should just wipe this answer too, or post it, so i guess i'll post it, for what it's worth.

Sean · #**384** 11-04-2015, 08:04 AM

Thanks for your encouraging words, shazeep

Sean · #**385** 11-04-2015, 08:05 AM

I guess if you want the exact truth to remain out of reach to all men, then that is your prerogative.

shazeep · #**386** 11-04-2015, 08:35 AM

well, i don't mean to be discouraging, but to post something that may save you in the future, even if it is not specifically remembered.

If the exact truth ends up being 'everything you know is wrong,' or 'there is no exact truth, set in stone for all time, applicable to all situations,' then this reply might serve to bring "exact truth" a little closer, perhaps. Who knows? I certainly don't--but you represent that you do; know everything that matters. You have the exact, perfect Truth.

So you are saying that we all need only listen to you, and you have no need to listen to anyone else--you might facetiously invite others to post their "exact truth," but if it does not agree with yours, in every respect, it will be discarded regardless of any differences in context or whatever. You have become God, iow. I know this, for a fact (it is my "exact truth"), because i do it all the time. The only difference is that i have been shattered, perhaps, so that i now listen to that voice that whispers "you are full of it."

Sean · #**387** 11-04-2015, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

well, i don't mean to be discouraging, but to post something that may save you in the future, even if it is not specifically remembered.

If the exact truth ends up being 'everything you know is wrong,' or 'there is no exact truth, set in stone for all time, applicable to all situations,' then this reply might serve to bring "exact truth" a little closer, perhaps. Who knows? I certainly don't--but you represent that you do; know everything that matters. You have the exact, perfect Truth.

What I mean by EXACT truth, is the "official" doctrines I teach are perfectly right.

Now, there are some "ideas" I share, that are up for grabs.

That is why I like AFF so much. It is a great place to test these ideas.

So you are saying that we all need only listen to you, and you have no need to listen to anyone else--you might facetiously invite others to post their "exact truth," but if it does not agree with yours, in every respect, it will be discarded regardless of any differences in context or whatever.

This is all about confidence levels, Shazeep. If I present a passage as fact, and nobody refutes the passage in their own interpretation.
And they are embarrased to present their ideas, for fear of humiliation, then that is a red flag in their mind that they have it wrong.
I present a doctrine with no fear of reprisal when I post a passage and merely agree with it, without trying to "read between the lines".... This type of presentation is BULLETPROOF.
I have noticed that preterists rarely teach their doctrines on AFF, but only question Futurists.
They know that teaching preterism may shame them, so they rarely expound their beliefs.
They remind me of folks that badgered Jesus or Paul about their doctrines, trying to find a flaw....LOL

You have become God, iow.

The Apostles had exact truth...Were they God?

I know this, for a fact (it is my "exact truth"), because i do it all the time. The only difference is that i have been shattered, perhaps, so that i now listen to that voice that whispers "you are full of it."

Well, maybe you are full of it, Shazeep.

There is nothing wrong with getting unchurched and rechurched.

I want and seek exact truth, not a belief system of men.

Evang.Benincasa · #**388** 11-04-2015, 01:53 PM

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Has anyone noticed, that futurists post passages and verses to read, and preterists post cartoons?...LOL

You are such a liar, and couldn't care less that you lie not about things but people. Sean, you are so wrong, and you are so done. We have not only posted scripture, book, chapter, and verse but have refuted your false teachings more times then I care to remember. You may be convinced that you lying about people will get a pass from God but it won't. Time proves all things and YOUR sins will find you out Sean. You are one mean and angry person, and boy you don't care what Jesus thinks about it. You will stop at nothing to win in your own personal Idaho. It is just a matter of time Sean, just a matter of time.

Evang.Benincasa · #**389** 11-04-2015, 01:56 PM

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Well, maybe you are full of it, Shazeep.

Now isn't that the pot calling the kettle black.

Sean · #**390** 11-04-2015, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You are such a liar, and couldn't care less that you lie not about things but people. Sean, you are so wrong, and you are so done. We have not only posted scripture, book, chapter, and verse but have refuted your false teachings more times then I care to remember. You may be convinced that you lying about people will get a pass from God but it won't. Time proves all things and YOUR sins will find you out Sean. You are one mean and angry person, and boy you don't care what Jesus thinks about it. You will stop at nothing to win in your own personal Idaho. It is just a matter of time Sean, just a matter of time.