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shag · #**391** 11-04-2015, 06:54 PM

Elder Sean, do u view Micah chapter 1 as having already been fulfilled?

Sean · #**392** 11-04-2015, 07:27 PM

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Elder Sean, do u view Micah chapter 1 as having already been fulfilled?

Chapter 1 is the beginning of the prophecy that begins to take shape in chapter 4 as the Glorious Kingdom of Christ on earth....The whole book is a single prophecy of the future of Israel as a whole....

Micah 4(Chapter 4)
4 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the Lord of hosts hath spoken it....

The end verses of the book....

7:18 Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.

19 He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us; he will subdue our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea.

20 Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, and the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old.

Now look at the comparison in Romans 11...

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Romans 11 is clearly, a quote of Micah 7.

shag · #**393** 11-04-2015, 07:37 PM

So u do not believe Micah 1:6-7 was fulfilled in 722 bc concerning Samaria?

Sean · #**394** 11-04-2015, 07:42 PM

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So u do not believe Micah 1:6-7 was fulfilled in 722 bc concerning Samaria?

Yes.

6. Samaria's punishment is mentioned first, as it was to fall before Jerusalem.
as an heap of the field--( Micah 3:12 ). Such a heap of stones and rubbish as is gathered out of fields, to clear them ( Hosea 12:11 ). Palestine is of a soil abounding in stones, which are gathered out before the vines are planted ( Isaiah 5:2 ).
as plantings of a vineyard--as a place where vines are planted. Vineyards were cultivated on the sides of hills exposed to the sun. The hill on which Samaria was built by Omri, had been, doubtless, planted with vines originally; now it is to be reduced again to its original state ( 1 Kings 16:24 ).
pour down--dash down the stones of the city into the valley beneath. A graphic picture of the present appearance of the ruins, which is as though "the buildings of the ancient city had been thrown down from the brow of the hill" [Scottish Mission of Inquiry, pp. 293,294].
discover the foundations--destroy it so utterly as to lay bare its foundations ( Ezekiel 13:14 ). Samaria was destroyed by Shalmaneser.

7. all the hires--the wealth which Israel boasted of receiving from her idols as the "rewards" or "hire" for worshipping them ( Hosea 2:5 Hosea 2:12 ).
idols . . . will I . . . desolate--that is, give them up to the foe to strip off the silver and gold with which they are overlaid.
she gathered it of the hire of an harlot, and they shall return to the hire of an harlot--Israel gathered (made for herself) her idols from the gold and silver received from false gods, as she thought, the "hire" of her worshipping them; and they shall again become what they had been before, the hire of spiritual harlotry, that is, the prosperity of the foe, who also being worshippers of idols will ascribe the acquisition to their idols [MAURER]. GROTIUS explains it, The offerings sent to Israel's temple by the Assyrians, whose idolatry Israel adopted, shall go back to the Assyrians, her teachers in idolatry, as the hire or fee for having taught it. The image of a harlot's hire for the supposed temporal reward of spiritual fornication, is more common in Scripture ( Hosea 9:1 ).

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shag · #**395** 11-04-2015, 07:55 PM

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Yes.

And do you believe at its fulfillment when He came down and treaded on the high places of the earth, that the mountains literally melted under him, and that the valleys literally split? (Like wax before a fire, and waters poured down a steep place).
And what was the high places of the earth that he walked on?

Sean · #**396** 11-04-2015, 08:08 PM

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And do you believe at its fulfillment when He came down and treaded on the high places of the earth, that the mountains literally melted under him, and that the valleys literally split? (Like wax before a fire, and waters poured down a steep place).
And what was the high places of the earth that he walked on?

Possibly....

3 For, behold, the Lord cometh forth out of his place, and will come down, and tread upon the high places of the earth.

4 And the mountains shall be molten under him, and the valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place.

But it looks like the description of His 2nd coming, introduced before Chapter 4.

Sean · #**397** 11-04-2015, 08:10 PM

Chapter 4....

Micah 4(Chapter 4)
4 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the Lord of hosts hath spoken it....