Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Hear, all ye people; hearken, O earth, and all that therein is: and let the Lord God be witness against you, the Lord from his HOLY TEMPLE.

So here we have the Lord coming out of His place, which is the Holy Temple. If this is future Sean, then what Temple will be HOLY in the future? God leaves this HOLY temple and attacks the pagan high places.

For, behold, the Lord cometh forth out of his place, and will come down, and tread upon the HIGH PLACES of the earth.

Now verse four is what shag was trying to pry out of you like pulling impacted molars.

And the mountains shall be MOLTEN under him, and the valleys shall be CLEFT, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place.

Does this happen in the past at the siege of Lachish (Micah 1:13)? Or somewhere off in the far distant future?

Before everyone gets carried away with trying to figure out how a snake is going to eat asparagus. I would like Sean to answer my questions concerning what HE SAID concerning Micah 1.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sean you aren't answering my question. You are shopping for answers which you THINK satisfy your belief. Yet can you explain why you bfirst placed chapter 1 of Micah in 722 BC and then place it in the future? While I see no problem with doing this you first must explain some questions your teaching is creating. What temple is God leaving to destroy pagan worship areas known to the prophet as high places? In verse 13 of chapter 1 of Micah it speaks of a prophecy specifically concerning the city of Lachish? Is this the future or is it in the past? If past how is the prophet relaying that to his listeners? Also in Jeremiah 26:18 the prophet refers back to the prophet Micah in chapter 1 to show that Micah was correct when he said God would leave His sanctuary and destroy the places of paganism in Israel. From what Jeremiah says he believed Micah's words were fulfilled and using them as an example for what would happen during his lifetime.

Sean maybe you should answer my question instead of throwing me your Google searches. Searches which you don't understand or are able to explain.

While everyone is trying to figure out how sinners will live to 100 years and be cursed in the millennium. Maybe Sean can answer my questions concerning Micah 1 ?

[Evang.Benincasa]

The lion (destroyer) is eating straw like an ox (laborer) muzzle not the ox which treads the grain. The lamb lies down with the wolf, unclean with clean, but both having a nature change. That is the effect of the Gospel in the life of a believer.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sean? I went all they way back pages to see if you ever answered even one of these two posts and you didn't answer? Frankly there is nothing even remotely intelligible from you other than your verbal diarrhea from my last posting to now. You have convinced me that you couldn't have a decent discussion on eschatology even if your soul depended on it, because you most likely don't have a soul. You don't care about souls, because you treat people like garbage. You are trying to win the Preterist? You are trying to convert the thither? You want to prove KJV is the Bible for thee? Sean, if I said it once I said it a thousand times your Bible studies around Stockton must be Gladiator school. Because you have a nervous breakdown when you are opposed with information you can't properly answer.

The only reason I honestly believed you were a child posting smack to grown men on his mother's computer, was because you behave like an immature punk. You were having such a time ripping into Bowas, Elder Blume, and Loren. Some may of thought that you could of learned something, but I never believed that, I saw you were a punk from day zero. You no more care about learning unless you are using that new information towards a preacher you are starving out.

Sean like I said before you are done, I compared you with the posters Francis and JoReba, but that was because you were as clueless an obnoxious as they. But that wouldnt be fair to those two posters, because unlike you they knew when they were beat. You are just too messed up spiritually and mentally to notice.

Sean, I know in the past I would tell you to go find a pastor and a church, I don't believe that is possible. I wouldn't do that to a minister or the church family or even you. Because it seems impossible that you could function over a long period of time in a church setting where you may hear things you don't agree with.

Yet, this all is addressing your forum persona. You are most likely the biggest whimp in person. I would hope, but from what I heared you are the same in person as you are here.

So, take some time to answer my post and let's try to have a conversation, unless you want to continue spewing hot excrement all over the thread.

Bumping this for obvious reasons.

[shazeep]

you're worse than Sean!

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

The lion (destroyer) is eating straw like an ox (laborer) muzzle not the ox which treads the grain. The lamb lies down with the wolf, unclean with clean, but both having a nature change. That is the effect of the Gospel in the life of a believer.

i like this though

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

you're worse than Sean!

Your not kidding their.

I have always said, when in a discussion with a fool it is always hard for people to tell the difference between the two.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I'm not full pret, but the picture is Jews and Gentiles dwelling together. Wolf (unclean) and Lamb (clean). Notice the creatures paired up.... clean and unclean. And children playing with asps shows a time of peace in the hearts of people saved.

Originally Posted by mfblume

Zion and the house of the Lord to which nations go -- the highest of mountains -- speaks of kingdoms (mountains). The kingdom of God in the church. Heavenly Zion, where Christ is seated at the throne. Psalm 110:1. Eph 1:20.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

The lion (destroyer) is eating straw like an ox (laborer) muzzle not the ox which treads the grain. The lamb lies down with the wolf, unclean with clean, but both having a nature change. That is the effect of the Gospel in the life of a believer.

Originally Posted by shazeep

you're worse than Sean!
i like this though

And Sean keeps saying we don't answer his questions! And has again filled 9 pages with repeated scripture.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Ya know TJJJJJJJJJ.......

I had to sift through 9 pages of scripture to find this insult just to respond to it!!!

You are insulting and a complete idiot!!!

You are ugly and your momma dresses you funny!

Someone thinks that repeating page after page of scripture is going to get attention.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

And Sean keeps saying we don't answer his questions! And has again filled 9 pages with repeated scripture.

And not ONE of you has answered a SINGLE question Loren.

All I get is more questions from preterists, as "answers" to my question.


Is there not a single preterist on AFF to explain this passage?...

Micah 4

4 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.



The closest thing to an answer I could get, is shazeep saying verse 5 is the explanation.

I think you preterists are really trying to hide your answer from me.

You guys have explained this passage, preterist style, in sealed rooms, long enough.

I only ask for a decent explanation to ALL 3 verses, concluding in verse 3.

You guys have said this passage is PAST prophecy, and was already fulfilled...Then prove it, by explaining it.

Unless you guys are sissy's.

[Sean]

I know that Loren is not a sissy.

He will gladly explain the 3 verses to us, preterist style.

Right, Loren?