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11-08-2015, 12:34 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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You're talking to a guy that thinks people would get sick and die in heaven if it wasn't for leaves on the tree of life, for gooodness' sake.
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Or a guy(Mike), that does not believe in the existence of the Tree of Life at all....
7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God....
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations....
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Which is directly CONTRARY to the words of Jesus Christ.
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11-08-2015, 01:30 PM
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God's convicting me of talking to these kinds of people, because they're embedding themselves more into error by seeing what we say, so they can keep fighting truth. They're getting worse. And I think God will judge us for pushing them into more nonsense by their stubbornness, which they wouldn't do if it wasn't for us. They make thus junk up as they go along, and it's because we argue with that level of mentality.
Let's let these guys fall away off the forum by ignoring them. They're just getting worse.
I think that's what it means to not cast pearls before swine.
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11-08-2015, 01:59 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
There are countless millions of futurist Christians(pigs) just like us, Mike.
Are you going to win us over to preterism, or go find a few friends to agree with you to share metaphors with?
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11-08-2015, 02:02 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
I think you should lock your metaphors(pearls) in a safe and bring them out to share with folks in your preterist vault.
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11-08-2015, 02:53 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Yes. To God, this is what He sees, when you speak in tongues.
God sees the invisible things that we cannot.....
11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
If you are deeply involved in tongues, have you noticed you can even feel it(the Holy Ghost) coming from the stomach/diaphragm area?
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Sean, you answered in the affirmative to my post but then recanted your yes by stating something else. I asked if you believed that actual RIVERS of living water would physically come out of your stomach. Would you like to try again?
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11-08-2015, 02:57 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Or a guy(Mike), that does not believe in the existence of the Tree of Life at all....
7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God....
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations....
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Which is directly CONTRARY to the words of Jesus Christ.
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Sean you loveth and maketh a lie.
Please show ONE post that Elder M Blume says there is NO tree of life. All you have to do is find ONE POST.
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11-08-2015, 03:01 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Sean, you answered in the affirmative to my post but then recanted your yes by stating something else. I asked if you believed that actual RIVERS of living water would physically come out of your stomach. Would you like to try again?
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It, SPIRITUALLY proceeds from our stomach as the Jesus said it would.
The Spiritual is just as real as the physical.
Whether you believe it or not, Jesus was not lying here....
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
It would be disheartening, to say the least, to find out Jesus was lying all along about His Spirit, as seen by Him as living water, proceeding from our bellies.
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11-08-2015, 03:05 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Sean you loveth and maketh a lie.
Please show ONE post that Elder M Blume says there is NO tree of life. All you have to do is find ONE POST. 
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Better yet, have your master , admit to AFF, that there is a real, actual Tree of Life.(a tree with 12 fruits and leaves on it, not something else)
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11-08-2015, 03:07 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
Or a guy(Mike), that does not believe in the existence of the Tree of Life at all....
7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God....
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations....
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Which is directly CONTRARY to the words of Jesus Christ.
Last edited by Sean; 11-08-2015 at 03:11 PM.
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11-08-2015, 03:37 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Sean, please explain what defines a REAL tree.
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A real tree is a tree that God created.
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How many folks do u realistically foresee that tree with 12 fruits and leaves will daily feed altogether? (Cant be deciduous or we're all toast...) How big would the tree need to be?
course, he did feed quite a few mortal non resurrected folks with 5 loaves and 2 fishes, so feeding immortal resurrected folks with 12 fruit and leaves to keep them alive wouldn't be an issue....especially if they're already raised incorruptible.
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